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Submitted by Salome on August 27, 2009 - 1:27pm Buckwheat Apple SourdoughWe've got so many jars and tins and boxes and bottles in our house. I "digged" in our cellar and found an old jar of dried apples. Dried 1998, surprisingly still look alright. Found a bag of organic buckwheat flour which my parents brought home from the Bretagne, France some holidays ago. And found a glass with some kind of Estonian instant Buckwheat which our Estonian exchange student left here two years ago. Everything looked alright, smelled alright, felt alright, I decided: It's time to use it! End of August - The fall is coming! What about an Buckwheat Apple Bread, that sounds good and seasonal. It just had to be created. That's where I came into play. I intensified the apple flavor trough some cider, which we had in our cellar as well, and added a little bit of pear honey as well. Rather easy, utterly delicious. The apple and the buckwheat are not only on the picture a nice couple, I found that the light sweetness and the sour tang of the apple worked very well with the nutty buckwheat flavor. Especially the crunchy loaf had a very interesting mouth feel! Buckwheat Apple Sourdough Ingredients liquid levain final dough
Simply autumn, doesn't it look like it? No other pictures of the "sleek" apple loaf, I gave it away to somebody who has borrowed me her car for my driver's license preparation a couple times. Of course I couldn't cut into it. ;) Salome Submitted by proth5 on July 4, 2009 - 3:28pm And get those Tribbles off the Bridge!I don't know if it is my enduring love of the classic Star Trek Episode (remember - the tribbles ate all the quadrotriticale) or longing for the wee great mountains and lochs of Scotland (one of my past "homes away from home") but lately I've been obsessed with triticale - the wheat/rye hybrid developed in Scotland. Now 90% of the time, I am all about the research - reading, questioning, and studying before I make a move. Of course, there's that 10% of the time where I just jump in - and the triticale was definitely in the 10%. And as our story unfolds, we can all see why I usually do research. I tempered the triticale and achieved a 13% moisture reading. I then milled it as I would wheat to about 85% extraction. It milled mostly like wheat - although to get good bran separation, I needed to mill finer than usual. But I would have been able to easily mill a "near white" flour as I can with wheat. I then proceeded to mix up my usual high extraction formula (levain based, 12% of the flour pre-fermented, lean dough, 72% hydration) with the aim to "go by the numbers" and see how triticale would be different. First bump in the road - when I brought the dough together, I realized that I had a dough with the characteristics of high percentage rye dough. As I passed the time between my 20 "folds in the bowl" - I did what I should have done and looked up triticale. It was first bred in the laboratory in 1875 by a Scottish biologist and now is mostly available as a second generation hybrid (2 types of triticale are crossed.) It is an interesting grain in that it has the high yield of wheat with the range tolerance of rye. This in itself is interesting as it has the potential to produce a useable grain outside the range of wheat. It is supposed to combine the taste of wheat with the taste of rye, which might make it interesting for those bakers who like a little rye in most of their baked products. There are some claims that it is incredibly "good for you" although I take those lightly. Of course, the downside is that the gluten content is low and it is considered less desirable for bread baking than wheat - but more so than rye. So with the dough in the bowl, I decided to treat it somewhat like a rye dough. Fortunately the base was already a levain. I continued to mix it 6 times with the "fold in the bowl" method (as I would for a whole wheat - but it never did get any significant gluten development) then shaped it and put it in a banneton moderately dusted with a rice flour/wheat flour blend. I allowed it to proof for 1 hour 15 minutes and it did rise fairly nicely. It did not seem particularly over proofed, but seemed fragile enough that I wanted to get it into the oven. For the first time ever, I "cheated" (by my definition) by using parchment on the peel as I just felt that it would not survive the slightest roughness while loading. After a feather soft landing on the peel - the dough flattened considerably. No need to score, but I did lightly dock it. I baked it in a receding oven starting at 500F with copious steam. The result? Well, I wouldn't call it good (I gotta be me...), but I wouldn't call it bad. It had a wonderful wheaty aroma while baking and did have a small amount of oven spring, but I was expecting a rock. See below - It was really, really flat. I put an egg cup in the shot to give an idea of how flat it was.
The crumb, however, although very fine was fairly light. It was not really heavy. (See below.)
The taste was actually quite nice - like red whole wheat with just a hint of rye. Just enough to add complexity, but not to overwhelm the wheat. I probably should have let it settle for a day - but given that this was not destined to be a truly fine bread - I felt it didn't matter. Now this isn't a question of "what went wrong with my bread?" I know what went wrong. I went off the deep end and used a grain that wasn't going to give me the best results. But it didn't give me horrible results and the taste was quite nice. The question is really - how do we take this somewhat marginal grain and make a much better bread? My thoughts are as follows:
So I call upon the collective wisdom of the TFLer's to come up with suggestions... I'll certainly be willing to try them if they seem reasonable. This seems like a grain that just hasn't had the right marketing campaign... Happy Baking! Submitted by edh on April 25, 2008 - 3:59am Help with King Arthur site?Hi all, I feel like a dope having to ask this, but could someone tell me how to navigate the KA site? Specifically, I can't seem to find any mention of flour or grains being available in any amounts over 5#. I'd just like to be able to compare prices as I'm considering buying 50# each of Sir Lancelot flour and whole red spring wheat berries. I can get them from my co-op for $.90/# for the flour and $.74/# for the wheat. That adds up to a pretty hefty investment from my point of view, and if KA offers them for substantially less, I'd love to take advantage of their free shipping offer! Thanks, edh Submitted by Dave W on February 7, 2008 - 11:09am GrainsI seem to have a problem with grains, such as rye grain etc, as in say Dan lepods recipe he says "boil the grains for 45 mins and then soak overnight. Now iv'e tried this twice now with different recipes but they still taste hard even after baking the loaves, making them almost inedible, iv'e actuly soaked them for much longer but without success. Any ideas how to rectify this problem ? Cheers Dave W |
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