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Anyone Need Specialty Flours?

August 7, 2009 - 10:13am -- Elagins
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I have a bunch of extra white rye, All Trumps (14.7% gluten), dark rye (pumpernickel), Cameo unbleached pastry flour, organic WW, white WW, durum (semolina) flour and Types 55 and 00 equivalents at prices far below what King Arthur charges. I also have fresh compressed yeast in 1# blocks for much less than you'll pay for those packages of dry yeast in the supermarket. If you've never used fresh compressed, you're really in for a treat!

If you're interested, message me here or email me at elagins@sbcglobal.net for details.

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A couple days ago, I baked some baguettes with a new (to me) flour – Bob's Red Mill Organic Unbleached White Flour. The dough was much more elastic than I expected, and the baguettes had a thicker, crunchier crust and chewier crumb than expected from a flour that is supposedly 11.7% protein, the same as KAF AP flour. (The Nutritional Information on the BRM bag specifies 4 gms of protein in each 34 gm serving.)

The BRM flour acted more like a higher gluten flour than it's protein content would suggest. Now, the packaging does say it's made from hard red spring wheat. As Dan has been telling us, that's what bakers look for when they want the strongest flour. We've also heard that “protein content” is not the same as “gluten content,” and also there are differences in the “quality” of gluten in different wheats. Is that what I encountered?

I decided my next step had to be to make another bread with this flour, to be sure my baguette experience wasn't the result of something other than the flour. I wanted a recipe that I had made before and knew how the dough should be, and I wanted one that was meant to be chewy, unlike baguettes.

Today, I baked a couple loaves of Susan from San Diego's “Ultimate Sourdough.” Susan likes chewy bread, and her recipe calls for “High Gluten” flour. I used the BRM Organic Unbleached Flour, rather than the KAF Bread Flour or Sir Lancelot I had used for this bread before.

Again, the flour acted like a high-gluten flour. It absorbed more water than KAF Bread Flour. It made a very elastic dough that was dryer than usual – just barely tacky. I fermented the dough until doubled (7 hours) and formed two boules which were cold retarded overnight after proofing 45 minutes at room temperature.

This morning, I allowed the boules to warm up and proof for 3.5 hours to about 1.5X their original size before baking. I baked them on a pre-heated stone with steaming by pouring boiling water over lava rocks in a cast iron skillet. (Forgive me, Susan! No magic bowl.)

 

The result was indistinguishable in chewiness and flavor from the other loaves I've baked with this recipe. (And that is very good!) The crumb was okay but noticeably less open than usual.

My conclusion is that this flour, which has a protein content of 11.7% (by my calculation), acts like other flours I've used with 14+% protein. 

If anyone else has more information about this flour or personal experience using it, I'd love to hear about it.

I also wonder if anyone knows if "hard red spring wheat" usually has higher protein content than winter wheat, or is it's gluten content a greater percentage of the total protein, or is it of higher quality.

David

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Can I use flour milled from seeds in a coffee grinder?

July 27, 2009 - 2:10am -- guyshahar

Hi


I am new to home baking and trying to bake gluten free (not yet made a great loaf, but still trying).


I have a simple coffee grinder with a rotating blade at home, but it grinds grains very finely.  I have whole Sorghum, Quinoa, Hemp and Flax seeds that I would like to use as flours in my bread.  I have heard that this is a very good way of ensuring that the flour is fresh and of a good quality and nutricious.  

I have a couple of questions about this:

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Bob's Red Mill (Bulk Purchase)

May 19, 2009 - 4:36pm -- Steve H
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I'm thinking about bulk purchasing some flour from Bob's Red Mill.  Specifically, 25# of White Flour, Spelt Flour, and some odds and ends like Teff, Buckwheat, etc, in smaller quantities.

This means I'd probably be freezing a bunch of it and was wondering what experience anyone had with freezing flour for 6 months or so.  Any problems with doing this?

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What kind of whole wheat flour to get for bread?

May 19, 2009 - 1:14pm -- chykcha

I have read somewhere here about people ordering whole wheat flour from people, who grow organic wheat and grind it to your specifications right before mailing it to you.  I am about to order a 10lb bag to try, but don't know how they should grind it.  I bake whole wheat bread, including sourdough.  I would appreciate any advice.  Thanks!

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