Submitted by Sheps on November 30, 2011 - 6:54am

Everything is too crusty!

Hello all!

Having just pulled yet another crusty loaf out of the oven, I'm wondering what I might be doing wrong. You see, it seems that whatever I bake, be it cake, bread, muffins... and whichever recipe I follow, I always get a crust that is a little thicker than I would care for. This is not only the exposed part of the bread (or muffin etc), but also the part that is inside any pan I might use.

The other possibly related symptoms are that the things I bake are never as light as I would like, and drier than I would like too. They are not complete disasters, quite edible (according to others too) but I'm not proud of them at all.

I'm using a fan assisted electric oven, I do everything by hand, I live in Northern Ireland where it is not especially humid or dry, hot or cold. I use instant yeast (though in other news I have had a starter growing in my kitchen for 10 days now and I can't wait to try it!) or brand new bicarb if I'm making soda bread, strong organic flours... I don't have a thermometer for my oven (apart from the built in dial), though I suspect I should probably invest in one as soon as possible. I don't use steam, though I'm also thinking I should probably try this next time.

Mainly I was suspicious that it really is EVERYTHING I make that has the same thick crust issue, which either points the finger at the common factor of the oven, or me! What do you think?

Thank you so much in advance...

Submitted by ash_bread on June 26, 2010 - 1:55pm

Crusty bread turns soft

  • 110ml warm water
  • 200g strong white flour
  • 3/4 teaspoon quick yeast
  • 3/4 teaspoon salt
  • pinch of sugar

Hi,

I've been following a recipe as above but having problems with the crust. The behaviour's pretty consistent. The crust is ok in the oven but once it's out of the oven the crust on top softens. Underneath the bread tends to be cruncy.

Recently I've tried just starting with the water first,yeast, pinch of sugar and salt then adding flour gradually using a pastry scraper to need and stretch. It works fine but again I get a bread with a decent moist crumb but a soft crust on top.

The old recipe I used to use resulted in soft tops less often (used orange juice instead of the sugar and water)  but I was in a different house so could have been the oven.

Any ideas?

 

Kind regards,

Ashley.

Submitted by ejm on December 18, 2009 - 8:16am

baguettes and a ring


I'm really excited about this crusty loaf that I had formed into a ring. The bread turned out fabulously. I used a relatively new way of shaping that I learned from watching this YouTube video and then left the shaped bread in the fridge overnight and baked it the next morning. The crust is even more caramelized and crispy and the crumb has a wonderful nutty flavour.

We served this bread for a recent festive dinner with an appetizer of Moules Marinière (mussels poached in white wine, butter, onions, garlic and parsley)

We loved the Mussels so much that we think we'll serve them (with more of this bread) for Christmas Eve dinner. And maybe again on New Year's Even dinner too....

-Elizabeth

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Submitted by Fence on August 30, 2009 - 7:07am

My First Sourdough Bread

Today I made my first sourdough bread! The starter had been bubbling for almost 11 days now, so I decided to give it a try. At first it didn't rise much. I guess I simply didn't knead it properly in the beginning, but by the time it came out of the oven there was a queue waiting to take a bite out of it. I got the recipe from here.

Here's the loaf when it came out:

And this is the crumb:

My starter is slightly thicker than pancake-batter. Does anyone know any other good recipes that will work with a starter such as mine?

Thanks

Fence

Submitted by Fence on August 17, 2009 - 7:56am

Advice needed on recipe.

Hello everyone!

I'm rather a novice at baking and I love experimenting, but I would like other people's opinions before I try out the following recipe. Truth be told, I made it up myself. I'm going for a white bread loaf with a relatively moist inside and a crispy outside. So please give me some advice and any critique is welcome!

500 grams white bread flour
80 ml milk
180 ml water (about)
1 egg
2 tablespoons olive oil
1 1/2 tablespoons white sugar
1/2 tablespoon salt
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 teaspoon instant yeast (please tell me whether this should be heaped or not)

So, we mix everything together, knead it and leave it to rise, until it has doubled in size. Then we take it out of the bowl,  form it and leave it to rise a second time (Do you think I should do this? I know that if I let the the bread over-ferment it will acquire a beery taste, but I want it to have the best flavour possible. Should I maybe put less sugar in?). We glaze the loaf/loaves/rolls and bake them for 45 minutes at 200 degrees Celsius.

Does this sound sane?

Submitted by louiscohen on May 31, 2009 - 4:42pm

What Happened to My Crust

I'm trying to bake a loaf that is mostly whole wheat, artisan, and the kind of bread you want to sop up the juice left in your bowl of steamed mussels, or the last of your cioppino - crusty and chewy, with an open crumb, and crusty.  Did I mention crusty?

I used this formula:
WW flour           75%
high gluten flour  25%
water                 85%
yeast                   1%
salt                      2%
Following the KAF Whole Grain Baking book, I made a poolish with 25% of the total flour weight (with WW only), with 100% hydration, and a pinch of yeast.
The next day, I added everything else and mixed briefly by hand.  I let it bulk ferment for 4 hrs, with a fold at 1-2-3 hrs.  
I shaped it into a 1 kg batard and let it proof for an hour.
I brushed it with an egg-substitute wash (essentially egg whites and coloring), sprinkled with poppy seeds, scored it baguette style (well, I tried to), and baked on a stone on parchment paper  at 425* (with convection) for 27 minutes.  After putting the bread in the oven, I filled a preheated pan on the bottom shelf with boiling water.  There was a nice oven spring.  The internal temp was 200* and it had a nice hard crust coming out of the oven.
After an hour on the cooling rack, the crust was completely soft.  The crumb was fine, nice and open.
Can you tell me what happened to the crust as it cooled?  Perhaps I didn't bake long enough, and the steam remaining in the high-hydration bread softened the crust as the bread cooled?  Or should I use water instead of the egg white wash?  
 Another curious thing that I have seen before was that the crumb was much more open at the top of the loaf than the bottom.  The baking stone was pre-heated in the oven for nearly an hour.   Could the stone have been on too high a rack in the oven, ie too close to the upper heating element?  
Thanks

Submitted by cdnDough on December 4, 2008 - 6:01am

French Rolls

Hi all,

Can anyone recommend a French-style dinner roll recipe?  Something that is crusty (but also relatively easy to tear), has an airy crumb and preferably uses some percentage of whole wheat/rye flour.  I've tried making rolls from my two standard sourdoughs (pain au levain complet et pain au levain from Leader's books) but, while the bread is great, the crust is simply too strong to tear when formed into a 3 oz roll and baked at 400F.  I've not tried substituting pate fermentee for stiff levain but I have thought about it.  At this point, my next attempt will be pain du campain from BBA or one of the liquid levain recipes from Leader's Bread Alone.  Any other thoughts are greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

Submitted by John Smith on November 19, 2008 - 11:32am

Rolls For Thanksgiving. Crusty Vs. Buttey

Hello All,

I have been enlisted to make the bread/rolls for our Thanksgiving feast this year. No problem there. I look forward to it. But my In-laws are asking for a recipe I once made, (handed down by my aunt) and quite honestly it is a pain.  It goes like this:

3 C hot water
2 Sticks butter
1 1/2 C sugar
6 eggs beaten
1 1/2 t salt
2/3 C powdered milk

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Yeast combo
3 T yeast 1/4 C sugar 3/4 C lukewarm water

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10 C flour
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Now for the kicker.  After all this you roll it out, smother it with another stick of melted butter and roll it up. They are like cinnamon rolls without the fun cinnamon or sugar.
The recipe says to bake at 350 for 15 min. This part always drove me crazy because if you don't place the rolls just right, they run into each other and you end up with a doughy mass in the middle of the pan.  Even if you succeed, the roll is huge, heavy, slippery with butter (i like butter. I even love butter. but come on!)

Personally I would like  a nice simple crusty roll. Tasty and soft on the inside. good for splitting in half and stacking with turkey or the antipast.  But finding a recipe that really crackles has been hard in and of its self. Reinhart's white bread rolls are OK as far as they go....
but they are white bread. Any ideas for my ideal roll (or even how to make the above gut bombs palatable to anyone who likes a little bread with their butter) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! and have a happy Thanksgiving!