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Submitted by Ryan Sandler on February 15, 2009 - 8:04pm The Great Bagel ExperimentSince making a foray into pretzels and discovering the impact of a strong-ish baking soda solution on the crust of said pretzels, I've been wondering how different qualities of water affect the results on bagels. I know from around the forums that some do without baking soda, some do a little, some go for malt syrup instead. The Bread Bakers Apprentice recipe (also the one in Floyd's bagel post) calls for 1 tablespoon soda in an unknowable amount of water. By comparison, the concensus in the pretzel thread was 1 tablespoon soda per cup water, a 1/16 solution. But would that work for bagels, or make a pretzel-tasting bagel? I endeavored to find out this morning. I made up a batch of the BBA bagel dough, shaped and refrigerated last night. This morning I got two pots of water going with 8 cups of water in each, and did six different dipping combinations, with each bagel boiled 1 minute per side. In this first one, from right to left, you can see plain water, 1 tbsp baking soda (the amount called for in the recipe, though probably stronger than usual since I typically use more than 8 cups water), and 4 tbsp baking soda (a 1/32 solution, half the amount recommended on the forums for pretzels).
As you can see, the amount of soda makes a big difference! The rightmost pair in the next pan had 8 tbsp of baking soda--pretzel quantity. It's hard to tell from the picture, but these were much darker than the 1/32 solution pair. After this I switched to the other pot of water, and the last two pairs of bagels were boiled with 1tbsp and 2 tbsp of malt syrup in 8 cups water, respectively. No, it wasn't the camera's fault, I couldn't really tell them apart either.
Of course, this left my wife and me with six type of bagels to taste, and only two taste testers. We tried the 1/32 and 1/16 baking sodas, and one of the malt syrup ones (I think the 2 tbsp, but I forget). The 1/32-solution bagel was quite good, although with a little bit of the alkaline "pretzel" taste in places where a lot of moisture from the pot stuck to the bagel. The 1/16 solution bagel tasted like a bagel in preztel's clothing--pretzel-y on the outside, yet bagel-y on the inside. Weird. The bagel boiled in malt had much the same texture as the 1/32 and 1/128 baking soda bagels, though with a slightly different flavor. My wife and I decided we like the baking soda flavor a bit better, but I figure that's a matter of taste. I think for future I'd shoot for something like a 1/64 or 3/128 solution of baking soda (2-3 tbsp in 8 cups water).
Submitted by guerrillafood on October 27, 2007 - 10:24pm Food Based Lye vs. Baking Soda for making authentic German Pretzels?I am an American that lived in Germany for many years, and misses the breads of Munich so much. I have a European culinary apprenticeship under my belt and countless years of restaurant experience, but I am not able to recreate “simple” German pretzels. I find that there is a phenomenon in the American bread world. I find everyday breads in supermarkets and even artisan bakeries that look identical to European breads, but when you pick them up and take a bite, they are much softer, and well… weaker breads. The same things happens with my pretzels. Submitted by Rosalie on October 22, 2007 - 12:17pm Why Baking Soda in Yeast Bread?So I was looking for another recipe to try out. I pulled out The Fannie Farmer Baking Book by Marion Cunningham. On page 449 I found Barley Buttermilk Bread. "Interesting," I thought. So that's what I'm going to make next, converting it fresh-ground whole grain. But, while it's a yeast bread, the baking soda took me by surprise. Could someone explain it? Here's the recipe for two loaves. |
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