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Using a Commercial Deck Oven with a Steam System

May 25, 2018 - 11:24am -- kneadvt

I know, steam is a huge topic on TFL. To the best of my abilities I've searched the archives but have not found any discussion on steam usage in a commercial deck oven with a steam rig.

I have an ABS gas deck oven with individual steam units for each deck. Each steam unit has an internal allen bradley timer to determine how much steam is released when the button is depressed. The factory setting is about five seconds. There are also two temperature controls on each steam unit in the back which I believe to be boiler temp?

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Looking for feedback on baguettes

March 5, 2018 - 5:42pm -- mepnosis

I've been making baguettes the last few weeks, it is rather addicting.

Here is an image from the latest batch:

I used the poolish baguette recipe I found on this site: though for some reason i increased the hydration to 70%.  I also added some diastatic malt powder.

Some things I'd like to improve on:

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Structured Online Baking Courses?

February 8, 2018 - 3:40pm -- seanranney

I've been baking for a few years and have my sourdough artisan boule type bread down fairly well (at least most of the time).  I'm looking to explore other areas with bread and other baked goods, and looking for a structured online baking course.  I know there are a ton of sporadic youtube videos that show one thing at a time, but I'm more interested in a  class similar to what I would get at a culinary institute that would go step by step through the baking world. 

I'm happy to pay for it, not looking for a free thing.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!!

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Autolyse, Mixing, Hydration,Structure, Flour Types , Fat and Yolk amout for Panettone

January 18, 2018 - 9:30pm -- Evrenbingol

I am after improving crumb structure of my Panettone. 

Things I know are , Autolyse improves crumb structure, slow mixing reduces oxidization and promotes slow dough development followed by S&Fs. Strong Flour has more elasticity , and hydration helps extensibility.   

I have first experimented with increasing the hydration all the way to 100%

Here I am counting yolks to be %50 water. 

At %100 dough was incredibly tender. Like when cut in half it collapsed on itself, SUPER feathery.

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Lecithin to retard staling...?

December 2, 2017 - 3:42pm -- evandy

I am making a new panettone this year for christmas, and am wondering if I should amend the formula with lecithin to make it resist staling a little longer.   My old formula (Berenbaum's) did this, and I'm not quite sure if I should give it a try with Suas's.

On the up side, the Suas panettone is based on a natural starter, and the acid should help it remain stable for longer.  But... this one also has less butter and egg yolk.


Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Making an Electric/gas hearth oven...

August 7, 2017 - 5:28pm -- DRbaker24

So woodfired brick and earth ovens are beautiful, and have more "soul" and romanticism than the modern counterparts. That being said has anyone made an electric/gas oven w/ steam injection. I would like to have my own bakery one day. Just curious...

To ramble I imagine some sort of metal frame has to be made and lots of stuff soldered and bolted together not to mention heating elements, electronic controls, steam... yup. 4 decks would be ideal. and even some way to turn the oven on to preheat it via the internet...

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Collapse and re-growth cycles after starter refreshment

May 27, 2017 - 8:24am -- Martin Crossley

This really interested me... I took a time-lapse video of the ten hour period after a [1:1:1] refreshment of my 2 week-old wheat starter (3:1 white/wholemeal),

The first phase was as expected: a near-exponential growth in volume that peaked out after 3hrs (at 22 deg C) and then 'held' for 20-30 mins.

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Jump Up To "Bulk" Baking - Advice Please

May 22, 2017 - 7:57am -- JamieOF

Hello folks. The past 2 months have been a whirlwind of activity in my kitchen, to the point where I've started supplying a small new local cafe with sourdough breadbowls and some loaves, and have started selling in small quantities through my step-nephew (a cheesemaker) at a local farmer's market.


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