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What should I change if I want to add Rye to this recipe?

Ittayd's picture
Ittayd

What should I change if I want to add Rye to this recipe?

500g strong flour,
300g 100% hydration starter (fed 12 hours before)
250g water
10g salt

Now I want to add whole Rye, how much and what else should I change (just, say 150g Rye and 350g of strong flour)? Is there a change to the making of the bread (more autolyse, rest before shaping, oven heat)? 

(and in general, is there a calculator to do such things? e.g if I want to add grains, etc.)

Danni3ll3's picture
Danni3ll3

no calculator that I know of. Just have fun with it. Start with replacing 10% of your flour with rye and see how you like it. Just be aware that rye has less gluten so don’t go wild and use something like 50-60% and expect a light and airy loaf. 

HansB's picture
HansB

I'd start with 10% (100g.) Mix and bake just like you do for your other formula. You can try a Pain de Campagne sometime too with 10% whole wheat and 5% rye, it's one of my favorites.

 

Not sure what kind of calculator you are looking for but this one allows you to adjust the % of different flours.

 

https://www.bakerybits.co.uk/dough-calculator-bakerybits

bikeprof's picture
bikeprof

As you increase the amount of rye, you will find it absorbing more water, so for the same consistency dough, increase the hydration a bit.  It should also ferment a bit more quickly.

emmsf's picture
emmsf

In addition to the good advice others have given, make sure not to overmix rye. If you do, the dough will suddenly get very pasty. This isn’t a big problem if you’re just using 10% rye, but if your formula has a larger percentage of rye, over-mixing can ruin a nice dough.  

Fausto's picture
Fausto

Hi,

 

Rye goes in same percentage as wheat.

 

attaching a flour correspondence chart that, for your convenience, is in portuguese :) 

 

regards

Ittayd's picture
Ittayd

Thank you @Fausto, does it mean for example that if I have a recipe with 480g regular flour, I can instead use 240g barley? Sounds strange. 

Fausto's picture
Fausto

but you don't want a bread only out of barley!

the chart is calculated according to flour's "absorption capacity" - you may change parts of a recipe, but do not replace any of the ingredients completely - especially wheat, you should leave a good percentage of it.

happy bakings