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Hamelman ciabatta on a DLX/Ankaskrum

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shacke

Hamelman ciabatta on a DLX/Ankaskrum

Hello

I started baking again after many years off and I think this is actually my first post after much lurking.

I wanted to get a sense from DLX users what speeds and 'general' times they are using for their high hydration doughs.  I have had some terrible luck trying to gauge the right dough consistency and mixing time for Hamelman's ciabatta with poolish.  His instructions suggest a short mix but mixes I have seen online are fast and quite long.  Those doughs have that smooth pillowy and wobbly texture I have yet to get.  I think I may be missing something quite basic in terms of the initial mixing process.   

So this is a general question that hopefully someone can assist with.  Speed and mixing times for high hydration doughs in the Ankaskrum/DLX/magicmill?

Thanks

Evan

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Lazy Loafer

I found an interesting video about this on Youtube here. I don't have one of these mixers (though I lust after one), but I understood that the roller and scraper should be used for 'soft' doughs and the dough hook only for stiff dough. However, this guy is making a very high hydration spelt sourdough with the dough hook, looks like mixing at fairly high speed for about 20 minutes. Beautiful dough!

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shacke

Great link, thank you.

It was super helpful in that I have been clearly underworking my high hydration doughs.   Typically gone to the second mark for only about 5 minutes.  This time I went to nearly the third mark and went 8-9 minutes when it miraculously looked like a really shiny, supple and developed dough.

A big moment.  Thanks!

 

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Lazy Loafer

I know what you mean; I followed some of the Italian techniques in Daniel Leader's "Local Breads" and started mixing a couple of wet doughs at high speed (I mean high speed) in my KA for up to 20 minutes, and the transformation is quite amazing!

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bigcrusty

Evan,

I use Jason's Crocodiio Ciabatte and mix in my DLX Anskarum.  It is about a 95% hydration and I use full speed for 12 -15 minutes to get the gluten up.  It then triples.  I take it out and separate into two loaves.  Wait an hour and then flip the dough so the air is distributed and bake for 15 - 20 minutes.  I top with roasted garlic and onions and parmesian.

My grandson made a request today for more.  It's been a big hit with all the kids and grandkids.

 

Best of luck,

 

Big Crusty

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shacke

I made the crocodile bread and it was wild!  The dough and mixer worked flawlessly, then the family gobbled it up.