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Dobie'a Challenge, Black Lager, 3 Starter, Sprouted 11 Grain, Sorta Ciabatta Rolls with Wheat Sprouts in a Baked Scald

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Dobie'a Challenge, Black Lager, 3 Starter, Sprouted 11 Grain, Sorta Ciabatta Rolls with Wheat Sprouts in a Baked Scald

I should have figured that once Lucy found out that I wanted to try out dobie’s no baking equipment except an oven, bowl and hands, she would try to make my life miserable with this weeks bread recipe – 11 grain sprouted ciabatta rolls, with wheat sprouts in the baked scald,

Normally the water content of ciabatta is critical and developing the gluten in a mixer is almost a must…..so with mo scale, mixer, dough scraper or even a spoon this was a challenge to say the least.

 

I would love to tell you the recipe since these came out so well but alas, I have no idea what it really was and just a faint hint of what it was supposed to be since the recipe Lucy gave me to follow was on my new computer and it blew up – probably because it found out that no technology was allowed!

The 11 sprouted grain flour was supposed to be 25% of the mix with the rest LaFama AP.  10 of the 11 sprouted grains were the same as last week’s bake with the addition of buckwheat which I picked up to make soba noodles,  The sprouted wheat berries in the 3 hour, baked scald were supposed to be 12.5% with 30 g each of the dough flour and water mixed in as well.

 

The hydration was supposed to be 90% overall with the Witch Yeast, Cook Potato and Rye SD combo starters at 15 g total coming in at 15% pre-fermented flour and 100% hydration.  We fed the 11 sprouted grain bran to the levain for the first of 3 feedings with the other (2) 4 hour feedings being the 80% or so extraction.  The dough liquid was easy at 12 fl oz of Shiner’s Black Lager and it was used for the 2 hour autolyse with the dough flour and the salt sprinkled on top.

 

That is about all I can remember and, true to Lucy’ form, most of this stuff isn’t supposed to even be in ciabatta but that never stops a wild child let loose on a poor, unsuspecting and nearly defenseless world.  Jeeze what a mess!  Might as well not have even mixed it all together but, when you are older, you can easily forget how much your baking apprentice hates you much less remember where you live. 

Scald before the scald

After a couple of minutes of slap and folds we cleaned off out fingers as best we could, covered the glop with the bowl and hoped the somewhere around the 20- 30 minute wait to the next set would help this soupy mess – no clocks allowed either.  It did firm up  a bit but it was way easy to fling onto the floor and ceiling both. 

Lucy cleaned up the floor and the stuff on the ceiling will eventually dry out, turn to dust and fall off over the net 200 years.  After 4 sets it has firmed up enough to do 3 sets of stretch and folds.   We have no idea how much bench flour we used but it was about a handful a couple of times all total.

We had planned to make (8) 135 g personal ciabatta buns after looking at Lucy’s recipe.  We have no idea how big these bins ended up but there were 8 of them when we finished wet hand shaping – if you could call it that.   We divided these into eight pieces by grabbing a hunk of dough and plopping it onto a floured parchment lined baking sheet 

After messing with them to get them half decent looking and sprinkling some flour on top so the plastic bag it was wrapped in wouldn’t stick,  we bagged them and chucked them in the fridge overnight.  We were shooting for an 18 hour retard but it was at least 16 hours I’m guessing.

After taking them out of the fridge to warm up and take a peek, we had some breakfast, read the paper, had a couple of cups of coffee before watering the lettuce garden and trying to get the new laptop fired up to check the market…… only to find out the curser wasn’t working making the laptop totally worthless. 

After firing up the old backup and getting some work done we decided to fire up the oven and bake these little, bunnish beauties up.  I would guess they were out of the fridge 2-3 hours before the oven was lit.  We set her for 450 F and when Big Old Betsy beeped we waited a bit before putting the Mega Steam on the bottom rack so that the stones could catch up to BOB. 

A few minutes later, when we could see steam billowing out of Betsy’s vent, we loaded the sheet on the bottom stone while turning the oven down to 425 F.  We looked through the glass door to see them puff up nicely.  Once we thought the spring hand sprung, we took out the Mega Steam and turned the oven down to 425 F convection. 

After a few minutes we rotated the sheet and let them bake until they looked a bit brown and tapped hallow on the bottom.  Normally we would bake them for 8 minutes with steam and 10 without but we guessed as best we could since timing anything was verboten as Lucy likes to say often enough.

These little slippers had an open crumb, tasted terrific and were wonderfully sour.  I would love to show some photos, but keeping with the spirit of dobie’s challenge – Lucy said no to the camera being used…..sad too since there were about the best little rolls ever!  You will just have to take my word on it.

Yea!  Lucy changed her mind when I told her I couldn't use a food taster for these rolls either so the camera came out and she wanted to make sure i put last nights sunset in the post.

 Here is the recipe Lucy gave me.

SD Levain BuildBuild 1Build 2 Build 3Total%
6 Week Retarded Rye Sour60061.09%
Witch Yeast60061.09%
Cooked Potato Starter60061.09%
20% Extraction Sprouted 11 Grain2400244.37%
80 % Extraction 10 Grain026325810.56%
Water2426328214.92%
Total66526418233.12%
      
Levain Totals %   
Whole 10  Grain91.516.65%   
Water91.516.65%   
Levain Hydration100.00%    
      
Dough Flour %   
LaFama AP31256.78%   
Durum Semolina10018.20%   
80 % Extraction 10 Grain468.37%   
      
Salt101.82%   
 Black Lager & Water 3038570.06%   
      
Dough Hydration84.06%    
Total Flour w/ Starters550    
Total Water477    
      
Wheat Sprouts305.46%   
      
Hydration with Starter86.72%    
Total Weight1,116    
% Sprouted 11  Grain25.02%    
      
11 grain flour is equal amounts: Pima Club, barley, spelt, buckwheat 
Sonora White, einkorn, Kamut, rye, oat , wheat & emmer  
      
Scald is 30 g of 80% extraction sprouted  11 grain   
30 g of sprouted wheat berries and 30 g of water   
All included in above     

 Don't forget to top off the finished baked scald to the original 90 g with some extra water when done. 

Comments

STUinlouisa's picture
STUinlouisa

Sound like some good buns. It is surprising to find out how much you miss some of the equipment, but in the end most doughs come down to feel and observation anyway and you always have to be ready to adjust.

Stu

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dabrownman

I haven't had to adjust either the flour or water till it felt right but I usually wait to do it during the 2nd set of slap and folds.  These buns are tasty and very good for sandwiches and even hamburgers.

 Happy baking Stu 

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Isand66

When you need 2 lines to describe a bake it must be good :)

Hats off to you for not using your mixer....I'm too lazy but that's just me especially since we have around 17" so far of white stuff with no end in sight.  We may get over 20" by tonight.  Lexi is begging to go outside and play again, but I have to finish mixing my cranberry, walnut/pecan porridge bread first and then get bundled up.  I have to shovel some snow off the stoop just to open the door!

Happy Baking from Snowbound Long Island.

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dabrownman

ciabatta, brioche and panettone.  For a soupy bread not made in the mixer, time is your friend....and bench flour:-)  I'm going to make hamburgers for dinner since these buns are so good and the Cardinals game. 

Lucy would freak out in that much snow.  That snow would be 3 times taller than she is:-)  Enjoy the shovel work out .  It is 70 F here today with blue skies.  Lucy is rolling around in the grass in the sun, in the back yard.

She sends her best to her Abominable Snow Pack .  Glad you liked the buns and 

Happy Baking Ian

armato's picture
armato

Cool challenge - it definetly turned out well!

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dabrownman

These are tasty rolls and the challenge was fun, if pretty sloppy!

Happy baking 

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Reynard

They'd make nice burger buns I think :-)

But oh dear, de-glooping the kitchen... I can see the advantages of having a canine baker's apprentice in these instances (clean-up duties), but my two would just stare at me in feline horror... No dough in their whiskers, oh no...

I think if I tried a challenge like that, I'd probably end up erring on the drier side and baking a door stop :-P

No snow here in dear old Blighty. It's just wet, windy and muddy as usual.

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dabrownman

Glop was everywhere. A balmy 67 F today.  We have never had snow in Gilbert AZ for the last 28 years that I know of.  Don't like snow any more than 99 cent white sandwich bread at the grocery.  Lucy would definitely not like snow.  I baked a door stop pumpernickel a couple of weeks ago so I was a bit more wet than necessary.  Thankfully these rolls turned out well enough in the end.

Baking a whole, multi grain, half sprouted sandwich loaf with 4 starters and fold in sprouts this week as an experiment on intensive kneading with a machine, since sexual gratification can only be achieved by the use of them according to Zappa:-).

Glad you liked the rolls and 

Happy Baking Reynard