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Reynard's picture
Reynard

Back to Basics...

It's amazing how far your confidence can plummet after baking a whole string of inedible sourdough frisbees. Necessity (and hunger) got the better of me, so this week I switched back to a hybrid recipe that's always worked well.

405g flour

20g oat bran

300g tepid water

9g salt

4g dried active yeast

45g rye starter

Tablespoon vegetable oil (I use rape seed oil)

It's actually a recipe for a Polish sour rye that I found in a book and adapted a little while back. By varying the types of flour and flavourings in the mix, I can produce loads of different kinds of breads. If I'm in a real hurry, I can up the yeast to 7g and do the bulk ferment in an hour at room temperature (20C) and the proof in about 30 mins. If I've got more time, I can take the yeast down to 3g and let the dough come together more slowly. 4g of yeast gives a bulk ferment of around 2 hours and a proof of around 45 mins.

I've also been experimenting with using a large stock pot inverted over a baking sheet in order to do the first part of the bake. I can fit a medium-sized bread under that, either free form or in an 8x4 tin. I put this contraption on top of a pizza stone in my pre-heated oven. I bake for 25 mins at 230C and then 20 mins at 200.

The first loaf I made had a flour mix that was two parts wholemeal, one part granary and one part white bread flour. I also added in a tablespoon of milled linseed. This quantity is just right for an 8x4 loaf tin.

This made a really good all-round sandwich loaf; chewy, flavoursome crust and a lovely soft crumb.

The second variant I made this week was the most ambitious... The flour mix was 3 parts white bread flour and one part wholemeal, but I added two ounces of grated cheese (a mix of mature cheddar and parmesan) to the dough at the kneading stage. Because of the cheese, I put in only 7 grams of salt as opposed to 9. After the bulk ferment, I knocked the dough back, rolled it into a rectangle and spread a couple of tablespoons of my home made apricot and chilli chutney over it. I then did a series of  letter folds and rolling out - a bit like adding butter to croissant dough in order to incorporate the chutney before shaping the dough into a boule and letting it proof. I took my eye off the ball a bit during the proof and ended up with a frisbee...

The chutney made the loaf brown really quickly, so I had to turn the oven down to 180 in order to complete the bake without the bread burning. Even though the loaf was rather flat, it smelled wonderfully cheesy, fruity and spicy all at the same time. The crust was chewy with a rather strong flavour, the crumb was super soft and very tasty - a really good bread for savoury things. Would be good to dunk into soup as well :-)

I would definitely have another go at this, but need to pay more attention to my timings and oven temperatures - and probably bake it in a tin. I do like the way the chutney ended up being marbled through the dough. This bread would make a nice tear-and-share loaf as well...

The third variant of the recipe that I tried last night is probably the most basic. I used the same 3 parts white to one part wholemeal for the flour as I did in the cheese bread, but I left out the tablespoon of oil. Instead, I replaced 60ml of the water with extra virgin olive oil. After the bulk ferment, I shaped into a boule (I now use a different method to the one that gave me all the issues) and proofed it. As it was rather warm in the house yesterday it rose quicker than anticipated - didn't want to end up with another frisbee, so I put it into the oven even though the oven hadn't quite come up to temperature. The oven was only at 150, so by the time it would take to reach 230, the dough would have been way overproofed.

I set the timer for 55 mins to take into account the fact that the oven was colder. After 25 minutes, I removed the stock pot from the baking sheet to find myself very pleasantly surprised. In the end, the bread only wanted the 45 minutes that it normally takes. Serendipity maybe, but for the first time ever, I had a really beautiful boule. No wonkies, no blow-outs, no flying crust, no Jekyll-and-Hyde bread. Just a boule :-D

To say I was over the moon was an understatement as boules have been the bane of my existence. I think in future, when using the pizza stone / baking sheet / stock pot arrangement, I will definitely put the bread in the oven before the oven has come up to temperature.

The crust is soft rather than crunchy, but still chewy, and the crumb, like the other versions of this bread is wonderfully soft. It is a lovely bread that goes well with just about anything - you can taste the olive oil, but it's not pronounced, more of a nice background note.

It's felt really rewarding going back to basics, and I've made some good bread to boot. :-)

On other fronts, yesterday Lexi brought me a dead racing pigeon and today she brought me a headless mouse. She also chased my neighbour's cat out of the garden. Meanwhile, Poppy has decided that an old paper Primark bag makes the best cat bed ever...

I don't know how Lexi can manage to look so cute and innocent... ;-) And I recently finished a few paintings I'd been working on, so I figured I'd share... :-)

FV Northwestern: 16x10 inch watercolour on bockingford

Paul Warwick, Hednesford Hills Raceway 1986: 14 x 10 inch acrylic.

Justin Wilson portrait: 20x16 acrylic.

Hope you all enjoy the rest of the weekend - and best wishes from everyone chez Casa Witty :-)

 

 

Comments

rgconner's picture
rgconner

I have learned to do my final proofing in the refrigerator. Shape, and right in for overnight, shape and half an hour before going in if I want it in 4 to 6 hrs.

Because the cooling action puts the yeast on super slow growth, it is very hard to overproof.  Plus, the cold bread holds it's shape better until oven spring takes over, reducing the Frisbee effect.

Cutie pie kitty too =)

Reynard's picture
Reynard

In the fridge overnight, but they didn't quite go plan (the source of some of my frisbees, I fear) but I'll certainly give doing the final proof in the fridge a go.

Lexi is cute, but Poppy is a typical tortoiseshell thundercloud ;-)

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

as could be.  That loaf in the tin looks perfect as well. and it looks like your boule is starting to get there as well.  All it takes is experience and a lot of patience.  

I make a chutney for some chicken curry I put in sandwiches but never tried it in bread itself - the sandwich s killer though,.

Nice tribute to Wilson!  Well done and

Happy baking  

Reynard's picture
Reynard

That the way to making good bread is by making lots of bread... I'm getting there :-) Am baking again tomorrow as the boule hasn't lasted as long as I'd hoped. It is really very tasty. Might make a slightly darker version of the same.

I adore coronation chicken and chutney sandwiches :-) Chutney's also good with cream cheese, on sausages and in corned beef sandwiches.

Glad you like the paintings.

Took Lexi to the pet service this afternoon. She really enjoyed all the attention, but I have to admit it was embarrassing to watch her stick a leg behind her ear and wash her bum in full view of the Canon. The girl has no shame :-p

Reynard's picture
Reynard

I've made a double batch of this bread today as I promised a loaf to a friend. Her loaf I've made in the same way as the boule the other night (it's in the oven right now), whereas mine is shaped and doing it's final proof in the fridge before I bake it later this evening. Will be interesting to do a direct comparison. :-)

Isand66's picture
Isand66

Love your paintings....I can't paint except if you count a wall :).  Lexi looks so cute I wish I could give her a good chin scratch!

Great to see you figured some things out with your baking.  The last couple of bakes look great.  Might I suggest you give one of my more simple recipes a try?  It takes some time but is real easy and you may end up with better results for your sourdough bakes.  I hydrate the flour for 25 minutes to an hour, add in the starter and rest of the ingredients and mix on low for 5-6 minutes.  Put dough in oiled bowl and do a few stretch and folds.  Wait 15 minutes, another bunch of S & F's and repeat 1 more time or more if dough needs more strength.  Let sit out at room temperature for 1.5 - 2 hours depending on your ambient room temperature and in the fridge overnight.  Next day or evening let it rest on counter in bowl for 1 - 1.5 hours, again depending on temperature of room, shape, let it proof for 1.5-2 hours depending dough and bake.  I set my oven at it's highest of 550 F add a cup of water to a aluminum rimmed sheet pan and lower temp to 450 F until done.

If you want to try let me know and I will be glad to help you further.

Regards,

Ian (P.S. my Lexi is peering up at me as I type with her snout on my arm since she wants a go at my left over breakfast on my desk :))

Reynard's picture
Reynard

To make a good job of painting walls - hence I stick to smaller scale items ;-)

Yes, it's good to make progress. Yesterday's breads were a real success. I stuck to the usual recipe in terms of proportions, but the flour blend was a "tip all the odds and ends that need to be used up" kind of thing, and I added a dollop of malt to the mix. Will post pics tomorrow.

When I next make a pure sourdough bread (the ones I've been baking are hybrids) I'll give your method a go and see where it takes me. The only difference will be that the dough will be kneaded by hand as I don't have a stand mixer, and the bread will be baked in / under a pot as my oven has vents in the door and can't hold steam...

If I come unstuck I'll give you a shout. I really appreciate the offer of help :-)

I had bread and butter for lunch as Poppy and Lexi decided that they really *had* to see whether the ham was up to scratch... ;-) And I was presented with yet another headless mouse... :-p

Please give your furry gang headrubs from me :-)

KathyF's picture
KathyF

Especially the ship. Very nice.

The breads look very good. The sandwich loaf looks perfect. I am intrigued with the cheese and chutney bread. Sounds tasty! When I am baking a loaf that tends to get too dark too soon (usually the fruit breads because of the sugars) I put a piece of foil over it (and under it if needed) so it will come to temp without scorching. Baking at a little lower temperature for that type of bread helps too.

My cat Socks loves to watch me work on my computer!

Reynard's picture
Reynard

Both my girls will "help" me by sitting on my keyboard...

I got the idea for the cheese and chutney bread from my local supermarket, as they sell a version of it in their in store bakery. OK, it's got less cheese and less chutney, but if it's a good enough idea for Tesco, it's good enough for me. They sell it under the name of "Ploughman's Cob". I just happened to have some cheese that wanted using and an open jar of my homemade chutney in the fridge.

The bread was really very good, and I kind of liked the caramelized crust. Downside was folding in the chutney. That was a truly sticky, messy job... As well as being more careful about the actual baking of the bread, next time I do this, I'm going to cut up some of the cheese into chunks rather than grating it wholesale, so that I get some nice cheesy pockets dotted throughout the bread.

P.S. Please give Socks a head rub from me :-)

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

And Lucy can see the socks too!

Reynard's picture
Reynard

With the second bread, so no photos... But there wasn't an appreciable difference in the end result between the two boules. But popping it in the fridge for the proof does make it somewhat more convenient. :-)