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Challah recipes - effect of eggs.

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Patf

Challah recipes - effect of eggs.

I've been bakiing challahs for a long time, and recently (since buying Maggie Glezer's book A Blessing of Bread) I've been experimenting with the ingredients.

I used to use a sort of brioche recipe, sometimes using wholemeal flour, but omitting milk and butter ( to make them pareve) and eggs. Now I'm using honey as per Maggie G., but I find the addition of eggs makes the challahs very dry. I still use veg. oil.

Does anyone else find adding eggs to the dough makes the challahs dry? Perhaps you like them dry?

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AbeNW11 (not verified)

will make it more cake like.  Don't think it'll dry it out. Challahs are egg breads and not really made with milk or butter. Think of a normal dough enriched with eggs and sweeter.

 

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richkaimd

I'm not going to guess at why your loaves seem dry to you.  I do, however, suggest that you seek the pareve recipe for challah in The World of Jewish Cooking by Mark Gils.  It makes what I think of as "the perfect challah in everyone's mind".  Everyone who's accustomed to challah, that is.

 Here's the list of ingredients for his Eier Challah:

5 tsp dry yeast

2 cups water

1/2-3/4 cup honey (or sugar)

3-4 large eggs

1/2 cup vegetable oil

5 tsp kosher salt

8 cups APF (I used bread flour, not APF)

1 egg, beater, for the glaze

seeds, applied after the glaze, just pre-baking

 

 

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Patf

and the recipe - I'll try that . Not sure about american cups - is 8 cups around a kilogram? 2lbs?

My experience of making bread goes back a long way, well before I started to make challahs. We had got used to rather moist dense sweetish bread, white and wholemeal, So we prefer that texture in challahs.

I know it's slightly different from those that other people make.

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AbeNW11 (not verified)

I tried Emmanuel Hadjiandreou's recipe and it turned out really nice.

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/40218/challah

I work in grams so can't help you with cups. The recipe I tried makes one small Challah so just increase the volume proportionately if you try it.

 

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Patf

Your challah in your link looks just like those that I try to make, except I usually put sesame seeds on.

We're living in France at the moment so another problem I have is to obtain suitable bread flour. Whatever they say about french bread, their wheat/flour is nothing like UK or Canadian flour - it's very low in gluten.

I can get imported wholemeal flour though, and also use a french brioche flour which has additives including gluten.

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AbeNW11 (not verified)

Yes, European flours tend to be lower in gluten. Been having a look for you and a popular brand here, Doves Farm, ships to France for quite cheap. £11 for up to 30kg.

https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/how-to-use-the-website/delivery/ 

I'm sure there are other places too.

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AbeNW11 (not verified)

Strong Organic White Bread Flour https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/flour-and-ingredients/organic-strong-white-bread-flour-x-15kg/

Strong Organic Wholemeal Bread Flour https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/flour-and-ingredients/org-strong-wholemeal-flour-x-15kg/

And you can get Khorasan, Spelt, Rye, Emmer etc...