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mamagrow's picture
mamagrow

Wheat Montana Fail

Last year I ordered several 50# bags of organic hard white wheat berries from Azure Standard. At the same time I got pregnant with #6, so my bread making was sporadic, but my bread wasn't good. Not good elasticity, poor rise. I thought it was me and I was too sick to focus on it. Munchkin is now 4 months and I've been makinb bread daily. bad bread. It finally occurred to me that maybe it was the new wheat, so I borrowed some wheat from a friend and my bread was beautiful again. It was my first time with that brand, but I thought it was supposed to be the best! Any ideas what happened?

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carefreebaker

I would contact Azure Standard, maybe the have quality problem with that batch.

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mamagrow

I did contact them this week when I finally figured it out. They basically said too bad and hadn't heard anything from anyone else. The problem with a product like that is that people buy in bulk to replenish their supply. I ordered 5 50 pound bags. I've gone through 2.5 bags. I guess I'll use the rest as soft wheat. My bread dough would break off like cookie dough. It was that bad.

PMcCool's picture
PMcCool

That doesn't appear to be a brand that Azure Standard carries, nor does Wheat Montana appear to offer an organic version of their white whole wheat.  

Paul

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mamagrow

I ordered both soft and hard white wheat from them at the same time. The soft wheat is from Azure farms (the bag says so), but the hard white wheat are in bags that say Wheat Montana on the actual bag. Not a label. It is the only time I've ordered wheat from Azure (we moved to the west from Atlanta, so I used to get my grains from the Bread Beckers), so I have no idea what they usually sell. When I order online it doesn't specify a brand. When I called them she made it sound like they sell a lot of their product. I found another place locally that also brings in 50# bags of organic Wheat Montana berries as well. I thought maybe soft wheat got mislabeled, but I compared the two and they are different colors (isn't soft supposed to be lighter in color?).

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PMcCool

The Wheat Montana site (www.wheatmontana.com) lists their hard red wheat varieties in both organic and non-organic versions. Their white wheats, some hard and some soft, are apparently all non-organic.  One wonders if the wheat you received was a soft type, even though you ordered a hard type.  That would certainly account for the issues you have encountered. 

In my limited experience with their hard wheat flours, both red and white varieties, the results have been very good.  That's why I was surprised to hear about your difficulties. 

Paul

Yerffej's picture
Yerffej

Are you certain that the wheat is organic?

Jeff

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mamagrow

I purchased what I believed to be organic hard white wheat (it was represented that way), but I see it isn't on their website, as you mentioned. After I get the kids in bed I will look at my bags again. I did leave a message with Wheat Montana several days ago and haven't heard back.

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Yerffej

My experience in dealing with Wheat Montana was very similar to yours.  That is, their advertising leads you to believe that the product is organic when in fact it is not.  This was a few years back and I have not used their products since then.

Jeff

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mamagrow

I checked the label. The bag is wheat montana, the label is wheat montana and says 100% organic hard white wheat. I wish I could get them on the phone.

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Yerffej

If it says "organic" one would have to assume that it is.