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Picture of an All-Grain 22

Would any one on this site happen to have a picture of the All-Grain 22 that they would be willing to share with me. I have one and need a picture to clarify something in the way it is assembly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks in advance. 

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Contact: http://www.allgrainmills.com/home.html The Service Dept. They should be able to help you.

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I would still be interested in a picture of your mill. I need a shot from the top looking down showing the spout and the adjustment handle. I will have to admit that the pictures on the ebay post may be good enough but I sure wouldn't turn down any others that I can get. 

Thanks

Don

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Stones for an All-Grain A22

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I got the mill back together after much tinkering. It is a very long story which I may go into sometime later after I find out how well it grinds. Just had to post a picture of the Mill and the very very dirty flour canister it may be beyond cleaning, but I'm going to try.  

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I will try to take a photo tomorrow,  The discharge spout on my mine was missing, but I made another and mounted it in the same location.  If you have any questions, let me know I have had one A 33, and bought 2 A-22's - one for a friend.   I odn't like the original canister, it is too big IMHO, so I made a different one from a one gallon pitcher.  

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I'm not sure this is an original canister either. I do believe the filter lid is however. Will be looking forward to the pictures. I need to pick up something to grind. Mark suggested some popcorn to clean up the stones and It might help to get the set after I removed and replaced them. Mark sent me instructions. I'm thinking this mill may have been taken apart once before. The adjustment lever wasn't function correctly as far as I was concerned. 

Thanks  for letting me know. 

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Here is the photo you asked for.  The chute is above the lever when set to fine.  I have taken this one apart a number of times, but I think it is lined up right. 

 

Here is a photo of the gallon pitcher that I use for collecting.  It has a circular wooden ring of plywood, with a hole in the middel and a Harbor Frieight dust collector bag inverted over the ring to allow air to escape.

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Thanks Barry for the two awesome pictures. I'm going to see if I can up load the instructions I got from Mark. Or at least message them to you. 

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I am considering buying a grain mill during these holidays and I am still undecided. The manufacturer's website for this mill does not offer detailed information which is crucial for a highly priced product such as this one. It doesn't even list the price. Can any of the owners of this mill offer to provide more information about it?


What is the price for the 22 model?
How does it compare to the German corundum  stone mills?
Is it true that the stone mills on this one are diamond coated?
At what rate might these stones consume and how long would this coating last? What material are the stones made of?
At what rate does this mill grind?
Can it grind oily seeds or chick peas?
How loud is it compared to other mills?
Is there anything else you wish you would have known before you made this purchase?
What are your recommendations and thoughts on the matter?

Thanks! 

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The website is not very clear, but if you go to ordering info, the price for the A-22 new is $645.  http://www.allgrainmills.com/orderinfo.html

They can be found used regularly on ebay for under $300 shipped.  

I don't know how it compares to the German model, but it is well designed and built mostly of metal, and should last a lifetime.

The stones are not diamond coated.  Once the stone is glued to the rotor,  he uses a diamond hone to true it up.  He refers to that as dressing the stone, which is just another way of saying the same thing.  The use of a diamond really doesn't have any impact on how well the stone works, he could use other honing mediums which would work just as well.

The stone will work for the rest of your life, and probably your children's life, unless it gets cracked.  It wears out extremely slowly, if at all, since the berries that are being ground are much softer than the stone.

I don't know exactly what the stones are made of.

His site says it will grind at 9 to 11 pounds per hour - I have never measured mine.  It is definitely slower than an impact mill like the Wonder Mill, but it mills the flour at a lower temperature than an impact mill.

Don't know about oily seeds or chick peas.

Before you add the berries, it is pretty quiet because it is an induction motor.  Once it starts crushing the berries, it is pretty loud - I use it in the garage.  An impact mill, like the Wondermill, is much louder even before you add the berries, and louder still when it is crushing them.

Overall, it is a very well made mill. One shortcoming is that on this model, the hopper is pretty small - the older version  - the A33,  has a hopper that is 2 or 3 times as big. If you wanted to load it up, I think the max is approx  4 cups of berries - though don't quote me on that, I haven't measured it.  I think he also sells an extension to make the hopper bigger if you plan to grind large amounts at one time.

It is very well made and pretty compact. It is much nicer than the older A33 - which is not all that easy to adjust the coarseness of the grind -- on that model you have to turn the entire hopper, on the A22, you just move a lever. If you are looking at other older models,  there are many here that are fans of some of the other brands, such as the KOMO.

 

 

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Thank you very much for sharing all this information.

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I've been putting off running the machine till I could make a gasket to fit between the out let of the grinder and the bucket. Finally got it installed today. It worked as well as I was hoping it would not stray dust. Grinds a very fine flour and with out much heat to speak of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swmmhz2ZhAQ

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Nice Video,  it was hard to tell, but it sounded like you were getting a little contact between the stones, I usually set it so that once the berries are all ground, there is no scraping sound, just the hum of a motor.

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I believe you are correct on there being some slight contact on the stones. I'm going to see if I can change the alignment of the stones so that it isn't able to come into contact. I may or may not be able to accomplish it. I have a question for you, what do you do to the mill in between millings to clean it it?

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I just move the lever at the bottom slightly closer to coarse, and turn the motor on and let it run a few seconds, and if I still hear scraping, move it a little more - if not, then I leave it at that setting.  I don't clean it between millings.  I have taken it apart a few times, and generally there is little to no flour between the stones, so it doesn't need to be cleaned, in my opinion. I have found some excess flour on the inside of the machine, but I don't think it does any harm, and certainly not worth the trouble to take it apart and blow it out.