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taurus430

In Search of a Recipe for "Pizza Bread"

There is a bread that is used for Italian style hot dogs (a Newark, NJ thing) and sausage. It's known in the area as "pizza bread".I originate from Newark, NJ and this could be a local bread, but now it's known throughout the NJ area. This bread is about 9" round with a hole in the middle, soft white crumb with a golden crisp crust (a sort of flatbread). It's about 1 " thick and perfect for sandwiches.  Anyone know of a recipe for this, I would appreciate it.

Rob

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thomaschacon (not verified)

I checked Flickr and Google and didn't get a single hit that fits the description, unless you consider these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/freakinchris/5696339735/

Maybe this too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28395750@N04/3452345836/

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taurus430

Thanks for your research Thomas, but this bread looks like a big, plain bagel, but softer and I don't know why, but it has nothing to do with pizza, but the name. I use to get it at Italian bakeries in the city, but they're gone now. I believe it was local Italians who created this at the bakery. It's still being made somewhere because I see it at markets and deli's but now that I bake, I'd like to make this. Something close is when I make semi enriched Ciabatta in a 9" pie pan.

Rob

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It looks like a post you made last year has a picture. That might help jog someone's memory.

When researching, I did see a number of recipes called "pizza bread" made with ciabatta, but none of them looked like the above picture.

How do they use something shaped like that for hot dogs?

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taurus430

I have that pic on my other PC and did post it in another forum, did I post it here also? That pic is an advertisement from another local bakery not close to me. Please watch the videos in the links above and you will see how the sandwich is made. That round bread can be quartered or cut in half. A pocket is made and in go the hotdogs, potatoes onions and peppers. They are also good for cold cut sandwiches, especially my favorite, salami, provolone, ham with roasted peppers. Ok, so now you know my nationality.....LOL.

Rob

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The spam filter doesn't want the http through, so change the x the an h.

That bread kinda' looks like Po Boy or Muffaletta bread in a circular shape, at least the crumb does.

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taurus430

Muffaletta bread. I have a recipe for that bread, and they require sesame seeds on it. Method is a little different. I did a search on here it seems back in 2007 someone else was looking for this recipe. I just uploaded my pic on TFL, but back awhile ago I didn't know how to upload bread pics or it wouldn't go through. I found that pic on my backup flashdrive along with other picS I copied over to this PC. I hit the icon above to insert a pic but it's harder on here to do?????

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BakerBen

Hey,

I could not find a recipe - this guy states he thinks it is just left over pizza dough, probably not though.  I love this type of food - local ethnic and real ...

Check this link out

http://hungrybrowser.com/phaedrus/m1117Th11.htm#4

Hope someone comes through for you ... I will be watching too.

Ben

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taurus430

In my search, that's the closest I've come to it. BTW guys, this "Italian Style" hot dog is to die for. Originated in my hometown. Check out Youtube, they have some vids on it and the links up top for what this bread looks like, thanks to Ben!

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...or one of the other vendors listed on that SeriousEats page for a recipe.

It's probably just a simple Italian white bread made with biga.

The shape is a couronne. Easy enough. Just use your elbow to make the hole. Keep it open with narrow, cylindrical ovensafe cup.

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taurus430

the bakeries that made this were Italian bakeries that made bread mostly. The bakeries I knew only made a limited type of  bread (long French, round Pugliese, Malfada, Scali), rolls, bread sticks and some cookies. They had nothing to do with pizza so although it could be a pizza type dough ingredient wise, it was not left over pizza dough, for sure. I will experiment and try it, as I've been doing since I got involved with making breads. I do appreciate the link!!!! I don't know how to upload a pic, but I have one of my Ciabatta bread with homemade Italian style Hot Dogs. Normally the hot dogs, taters and onions & peppers are deep fried but mine is healthier......LOL 

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taurus430

Italian Style Hot Dogs. I cut the hot dogs up but either way, very good. First time posting a pic, hope it comes out ok! I used Ciabatta in place of the Pizza Bread that Italian Style hot dogs were made with.

Rob

 

 

 

 

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These from Addeo's in the Bronx, New York (2372 Hughes Ave., Bronx, NY 10458)

These from Terranova Bakery in New York (691 E 187th Street, Bronx, NY 10458)

These are from Addeo's too, but not sure if they are Pizza Bread.

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taurus430

I'm not sure what that bread is that you posted, but it's not Pizza Bread. I reposted the picture of pizza bread to compare. Now I wanna know what that bread with the big hole is???? LOL

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The people who make it are.  :)

(They're both from Brooklyn. That's close to New Jersey, right?)

Odd that the picture you reposted is what's called Pizza Bread. Every description I've read of it lately says it's not thick. They all say it's flat, like pita bread, which is why they call it "fat pita", because it looks like a fattened pita bread, which is a flatbread. The one in the reposted photo is 4" thick. That would make for one thick hot dog.

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dosidough

I agree with thomascharon,...sure looks close at least:

http://www.nolacuisine.com/2005/07/17/muffuletta-sandwich-recipe/

This is a link to see the bread and they have a link to the recipe. I've made this bread in large rounds for a Mardi Gras office party (way up north in Chicago) and it was very good.
I'd say have go at it and work a hole into the center bagel style.

especially my favorite, salami, provolone, ham with roasted peppers

So,....drop the ham add Capicola, Mortadella, Mozzerella and substitute olive salad for the peppers and it's a Muffuletta (Italian origins).
Good luck on this and...Bake on!

Dosi

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taurus430

FYI,  I baked and experimented with 2 different type doughs. I first tried pizza dough and baked it in a 9" round pie pan. It came out ok but it's not the "pizza  bread" that I'm use eating for so many years. The bread was to lean for "pizza bread" sandwiches.  I suspected that the dough is more enriched than pizza dough, so the dough I made the second time was closer to white bread. This is what I thought all along and DW even remarked how good it was. We ate it tonight with sausage , peppers and onions on it. So Good! I didn't get the hole in the middle but that's ok. For those who are wondering what "pizza bread" is, it's the 9"round bread with the hole looking like a big bagel in the pic. Originated in Newark, NJ, still baked around in NJ and used for sandwiches like sausage and peppers and Italian Style Hot Dogs.

Rob

I also enrich my bread for Ciabatta adding dry milk, olive oil and sugar to the dough. 

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cburney

Hi Rob,

I don't know if you are still "out there" in cyberspace but I am looking for a recipe for "pizza bread" with no luck.  I saw this post and although it is from 2012, I thought I'd still try.  I am also from NJ and don't get back there often.  I even called Calendra's Bakery to see if they would give me the recipe or ship me the bread but the answer was "no" to both.  So, you wrote that you were baking it and tried several different ways and came up with something reasonable.  I am not a bread maker but would love to have your recipe to try it myself.  I have a particular purpose in mind so if you are out there, HELP!!!  And thanks in advance!

Cheryl

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taurus430

Hi Cheryl, There is no recipe out there in all the searching I've done. I haven't made "pizza bread" in a while, but the recipe I use is similar to a pizza dough and Ciabatta Bread. I normally make all my doughs using a no knead dough and the one I like the most is Artisan Bread in 5 Mins a Day, the olive oil dough. This can be found on the Internet. I would use a 9 or 10" pie plate to form it, if using a wet dough. Food Wishes has a different method and a wetter dough to try, forming a Ciabatta which I like a lot for "Italian Style Hot Dogs" and Muffulatta type sandwich. I just don't like supermarket bread, so I bake a lot of rolls and bread. Good Luck, Rob

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JohnDeans

Pizza is a food that i did not explore in the kitchen and i wanna try it too.seem that first one is really look good.I am planning now to bought a baking equipment including for pizza thing too.In Finland i use to travel to see some bread and i notice some raskit or sour dough and it make me thing how long they preserve it and when i taste the finnish bread it was really unspeakable.