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Dwayne

Star Bagels

I've had a hard time with bagels.  I have asked a few questions here about my wrinkled bagels that I've made (thanks Mark Witt).  I made Bagels while being a recipe tester for Peter Reinhart's "Artisan Bread Every Day".  I also have made them from "The Bread Baker's Apprentice" but they were always wrinkled.  While testing recipes for Norm & Stan I had some success with their Montreal Bagels.  I did not do anything very different, these just turned out.  So I have been frustrated with bagels.


 


Completely unrelated, I had borrowed "Dough" by Richard Bertinet from our library and in there saw how he shapes rolls and in one chapter he cuts rolls into stars.  The star rolls looked great and I tried out this technique on some Buttermilk Clusters (recipe found on this site).


 


It occurred to me to try this cut on bagels and so here are my results.  I used the recipe from "The Bread Baker's Apprentice" by Peter Reinhart.  I did not retard the dough over night.


 



After mixing and kneading, I let the dough rise while I did some outdoor chores.  I then scaled them into 130 gram portions and shaped them into tight balls using Richard's method.  Question: Why do we do this for Boules but not bagels or did I miss this?  I then let them rest for about 20 minutes.


 



I got out a Starbucks gift card that was all used up (it is also doubling as a dough scraper until I find a real one).  I then put a little oil on the edge that will do the cutting and made my first cut.


 



I then made 2 more cuts.


 



Once the three cuts have been made you turn the dough inside out so that the points of the star are on the outside.  Put the best side up on the oiled parchment paper.


 



Here is one batch of bagels proofing for about 20 minutes.  After 20 minutes I boiled them (actually the water was not quite boiling) for 20 seconds a side, put topping on and baked on a hot stone.


 



I made two batches of bagels and it used up all but about a cup of flour from a 5 lb. bag.


 



I tried Onion for the first time.  I took some dehydrated onions and let them steep in hot water and then drained them.  I sprinkled some of the onions on the top of the boiled bagels just before putting them in the oven.  I also used Poppy seeds and Black Sesame Seeds.


 


Here are a few more pictures.


 


So, many thanks to Peter, Richard, Mark, Norm and Stan.  I am pleased the way these turned out.


Happy Baking,


Dwayne

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PMcCool

Those look very good, Dwaye.  Are they a bit crunchier than bagels usually are, because of the points that bake more than the bodies?


Paul

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Dwayne

Paul,


 


Thanks, yes they were a bit crunchier at the points.  Another advantage of these Star Bagels is that they do not tend to slip as you are slicing them as much as the round ones.


Dwayne

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flour_dusted

I saw this technique watching R. Bertinet.  I would never have thought to use it on a bagel dough.  Thanks for the wonderful idea.  Nice pics!

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clio

Excellent idea with the star shape!

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breadsong

Hello Dwayne, Your star bagels are just beautiful and thanks for sharing your shaping idea for them!  Regards, breadsong

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DeeElle

That's what we can call them, and beautiful things they are, too!  Really clever of you to apply that process. 
Regards,


DeeElle

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Chef Jimmy J

Dwayne, What temp. did you bake at? How long? Steam if so how long? Baking soda or Malt Syrup in the water?  I'm seeing temps and times vary.  Thanks...JJ

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Dwayne

JJ,


 


I'm suspecting that my oven temp is off.  I used 475 degrees and the bake time was about 20 minutes.  No steam.  Malt Syrup in the dough and in the water.  Good luck.  Please post pictures, I would love to see how other people's come out.  I hope to do some more experimenting this weekend.


 


Dwayne

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saltandserenity

Oh my stars!!  How cute are those bagels? I will have to try those next time.  I have never experienced the wrinkling with PR's BBA recipe and I make them all the time.  How odd.  Well you have a success here.

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Yippee

Very eye-catching bagels! Thanks for sharing.


 


Yippee

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Dwayne

I did some more experimenting.  I made the following sizes: 133, 100, 80, and 67 grams.


I also tried two new cuts.  In the picture befow the ones on the left have two cuts (a plus sign),  the ones on the lower right had 3 cuts and the ones in the upper right (roughtly) had 4 cuts.


 



I think that I figured out my wrinkled bagel problem.  In the preshaping I had not tighted up the balls.  I also made some normal shaped bagels and they turned out great.


Dwayne


 

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Przytulanka

What more can I say.