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Sourdough pizzas using a rolling machine

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hankhus

Sourdough pizzas using a rolling machine

Hi Everyone

I have a wood fired pizza joint and have been using Peter Reinhardts recipe for dough.  I would like to try sourdough but it seems that the dough is too soft for use in the rolling machine.  I cant make the base manually due to time constraints.  does anyone have any experience with using sourdough and a rolling machine.  any advice would be appreciated.

Hankus

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rossnroller

I've been making SD pizzas for quite a while now, and in my view the flavour is superior to any yeasted varieties I've tried - which is a lot, including 3 of Reinhart's. I can understand why you'd be thinking as you are.

However, as you'd be well aware, there's a world of difference between home and commercial baking. I'm not just talking theory here - the stark difference between these two worlds really struck home for me when I had the opportunity to bake with Yozza in a commercial environment.

So, I understand that you do not have time to manually make your pizza bases. That would preclude the Varasano style pizzas I make, since the dough is too wet to toss, let alone run through a rolling machine.

I can make one suggestion, though. From time to time I make pizzas from simple white SD bread dough, and they rate a close secondbest in flavour to my usual Varasano-adapted ones. A bit of rye in the mix adds a little something different, too. My preferred SD bread mix for pizzas is also probably a bit too high in hydration for your rolling machine, but maybe you could try a SD bread dough with a slightly lower hydration that allows you to use the roller. If you want the SD bread formula I use for pizzas, lemme know and I'll post it.

Related to the topic you've raised, I've often wondered how Jeff Varasano makes his bases in his pizza retail business...I believe it's a successful business, so he must make a lot of pizzas. Does he and his crew hand-make them all? Anyone know?

Hope you devise a way to use your roller on SD bases. Hopefully, whatever it takes to make a SD base roller-friendly won't detract from the quality of the pizza base such that it ends up inferior to the Reinhart recipe you're currently using. Which one is it, by the way?

Cheers
Ross

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hankhus

Hi Ross

Thanks for your reply to my post.  I am using Reinhardts recipe out of the bakers apprentice but slightly changed to include 10% semolina and I use compressed yeast and use 50% hydration.  I am also in the process of making the SD mother from the same book.  I will add the rye flour to tweak my SD and see what happens.  I find the Reinhardt recipe gives a good base but am always looking for the perfect pizza.  I know a hand made base gives the best results which allows the glutin to develop but as I said time precludes me from the had made process except for my own use which gives me the desired result.

Thanks again

Hankus

by the way I'm in Western Australia

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rossnroller

That makes at least three of us on TFL - Yozza's the other.

Where's your pizza place, Hankus? I'm in Mount Hawthorn, BTW.

Cheers
R

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hankhus

Yep! in Mt Barker. Pizza Pollo

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rossnroller

Was seriously thinking about moving down your way a while ago, then left it too late and the prices got away. Love Albany and surrounds. Spent many a wonderful summer there and in a rented house next to the pub in Denmark as a kid, and ever since have returned whenever time and finances allow.

I know Mt Barker is firmly on the map as an excellent wine-producing area (have sampled a few good ones at the winery cellar doors...enjoying sipping our way through a nice case of Hazard Hill sem sauv blanc at the moment, actually). I've heard Mt Barker has really picked up as a gourmet centre, too.  Main drag was really coming on last time I was down there, but that was a while ago. Don't usually stop in Mt Barker.

Will do next time, though. What are your opening hours at Pollo? Believe it or not, I was toying with the idea of investigating opening a WFO pizza place in your vicinity, then realised my SD pizza base would not easily transfer to a commercial context.

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harlee

Im new to TFL and would you believe im from Denmark! Really enjoying reading all your posts and gaining knowledge on the ever addicting bread making.

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rossnroller

Didn't see your post until now. Welcome!

Cheers
Ross