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trailrunner

I finally got around to purchasing a container of food grade lye . I had tried to find info on lye baths for bagels but there is very little out there and the percent of lye to water that was used seemed way off. I am glad that I pursued this and have some data that I hope will help others. I purchased the lye on Amazon  here . Will likely last me a good long while. I used 5 grams in 1 gallon of filtered tap water. This is approx. 12-12.5 % alkalinity. Baking soda is only 9 if fully saturated  so can't get the water where I wanted it to optimize the crust . I will  use a bit more next time and get it up to the full 14% that is possible if fully saturated. . I am VERY pleased with how these came out. I added the lye to the cold water and brought it to a boil. Just to be on the safe side ( my husband is a chemist and insisted) I wore goggles and had some vinegar in a dish off to the side to neutralize any splash on the skin. I had no problems. 

I bathed the bagels for 10 seconds on a side...lifted out and drained, replaced on the sheet pan dusted with semolina where they had retarded. I baked them as always in 400 degree oven approx 22 min. rotated pans at the 1/2. Formula I use is here. I used whey instead of water as I had a lot from my kefir cheese making. I also used half white and half rye starter. 

The crust is amazing. So crisp. Beautiful blisters and a nice glow to the crust. Perfect chewy crumb. Lovely fragrance. Any residue of lye is  hydrolyzed by the proteins in the bagel dough and is neutralized so you don't need to worry about rinsing the bagels after dipping. 

Here are some pics. 

note the difference in the boiled vs unboiled bagels:  photo IMG_6519_zps3c764110.jpg  photo IMG_6520_zps315e4861.jpg baked :  photo IMG_6522_zps1c08d5f1.jpg crumb ( small flaw from rolling/shaping )  photo IMG_6524_zpsc6a35858.jpg  photo IMG_6523_zps94d31ff3.jpg  photo IMG_6526_zps5b596f3d.jpg

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Szanter5339

                      és íme a gyönyörűséges lakodalmi kalács.

                      Négy szál tésztát kisodorunk, majd kettőt- kettőt összefogva, jobbra csavarva sodorjuk.

                   Majd a kettő jobbra sodort tésztát összefogni és balra sodorni.

                   Kerekre formáztam és lekentem tojással. 20 perc kelesztés után 200 fokos sütőben sütöttem a szép piros szín eléréséig.

                  Szép és mutatós, sőt még finom is!

                  Párosan szép az élet!

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dabrownman

We have been trying out various versions of buns for hot dogs and hamburgers.   This time we went back to basics and looked for a whole wheat bun on the King Arthur website.  We found their 100% WW one for hot dogs and their white bread one for hamburgers.

 

Since we were going to do a 35% whole wheat one, we decided to combine the two, replace the sugar with honey, drop the commercial yeast and replace it with yeast water, up the hydration  to 75% and add some cream cheese to mix like Ian does on so many of his bun bakes.

 

We were needing to refresh the cherry YW anyway so did so, with only apples this time, and used the remainder to make a 1 stage, 100% hydration, levain over 300g that sat out at room temperature for 8 hours before we refrigerated it overnight after it had risen 75% in volume.

 

The next morning we let the YW levain finish its last 25% of rise on the counter.  When it had doubled we through everything together and did 5 minutes of slap and folds and then let the dough rest for 10 minutes before doing another 5 minutes of slap and folds.

 

After a 15 minute rest we did 2 sets of S&F’s on 15 minute intervals before allowing the dough to ferment on the counter for an hour.  We then pieced out the dough into (8) 110 g pieces and pre-shaped 4 of them into  hot dog buns and 4 into balls for hamburger thins.

 

10 minutes later we final shaped the buns putting the hot dog buns into a small Pyrex pan to proof and the hamburger thins on parchment on the top lid of the mini oven’s broiler pan.  The buns were allowed to proof for 5 hours on the counter.

 

The hot dog buns were brushed with an egg wash and were the first to go into the mini oven at 425 F after 8 minutes of baking the oven was turned down to 375 F convection this time.  After 8 minutes with the fan the hot dog buns were deemed done and the hamburger thins then received the identical treatment.

 

The buns blistered up like the mini usually seems to manage every time.  They were brown and shiny.  Wow!  These buns sprang 3 times their pre mini oven height!  Yes 3 times higher - only yeast water can do that according to my bread baking experience. These bins were very open, light, airy and moist – the buns we have ever manages to date.

 

Yes, there is some hotnpeppers, cheese adn bacon in those beef patties.

Today's lunch with that fine Taztzel and I bet there is some pastrami in there too!

 They were tasty too but not sour at all.  Lucy was especially happy that her sister, our daughter was accepted into PA school.  Yeah.  We are all so happy for her.  She requested tacos (Pibil, carnitas, grouper, chicken and carne asada) with guacamole, red and green hot sauces, pico de gillo, smoked pork necks in beans and Mexican green rice last night for dinner.

 Tonight she got hamburgers, caramelized onion, mushrooms and various hot peppers with sweet and regular grilled potato wedges.    She even liked the buns!  Congrats to Molly!

 

Formula

Yeast Water 35% Whole Wheat Hamburger Thins

 

 

Build 1

Total

%

Whole Wheat

158

158

34.50%

Yeast Water

158

158

34.50%

Total

316

316

34.50%

 

 

 

 

Multigrain SD Levain

 

%

 

Flour

158

34.50%

 

Water

158

34.50%

 

Hydration

100.00%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Levain % of Total

316

42.08%

 

 

 

 

 

Dough Flour

 

%

 

AP

300

65.50%

 

Dough Flour

300

65.50%

 

 

 

 

 

Salt

9

1.97%

 

Water

135

29.48%

 

Dough Hydration

45.00%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total Flour

458

100.00%

 

Water 158, Yeast Water 90

293

63.97%

 

T. Dough Hydration

63.97%

 

 

% Whole Grain Flour

34.50%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hydration w/ Adds

73.36%

 

 

Total Weight

884

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add - Ins

 

%

 

Honey

20

4.37%

 

Butter

20

4.37%

 

Cream Cheese

20

4.37%

 

Potato Flakes

8

1.75%

 

VW Gluten

10

2.18%

 

Egg

46

10.04%

 

Total

124

27.07%

 

 

 A fine breakfast for the PA girl too!

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Floydm

Following up on Wingnut's pizza post, here are a few shots of our pesto pizza from last night.

I used an overnight poolish for the crust, made the dough in the early AM and baked in the evening.

Pretty decent char on the crust for standard home oven.

Good stuff!

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dmsnyder

I thought about titling this entry "With failures like these, who needs success?" This morning, I baked another new-to-me bread from Ken Forkish's Flour Water Salt Yeast. It is called "75% Whole Wheat Levain Bread," and it is a 75% whole wheat sourdough bread with a little instant yeast but otherwise just - You guessed it! - Flour, water, and salt.

This bread is supposed to bulk ferment for 5 hours and then cold retard overnight after shaping. My dough was mixed at 5 pm. At 6:15 pm, I left home for a class. When I returned at 8:40 pm, the dough had almost quadrupled in volume. It was so fluffy, I thought it was a lost cause. After a moment's consideration of tossing it, I went ahead and shaped it, placed it in a banneton which went into a plastic bag which went into the fridge. This morning, after preheating the oven, I took the loaf out of the fridge and baked it with no further proofing.

I had put the boule in the banneton smooth side up, which is what Forkish recommends. That way, it bakes with the seams created by shaping facing up and no scoring. The seams open up with oven spring and can make a pleasing, chaotic pattern, when everything works as it is supposed to.

Because the dough had over-fermented, I planned on no room-temperature proofing. The loaf coming out of the fridge showed no noticeable expansion but the poke test suggested it was only slightly under-proofed. Before baking, again, I heated the top of the combo cooker. The boule was transferred to the cool bottom, covered with the pre-heated top and placed in the oven. Bake time was 30 minutes covered, then 20 minutes uncovered.

Note: The true color of this bread's crumb is a much darker brown than it appears on my computer screen.

The loaf had great oven spring. It did not achieve the volume of the other boules I have baked from FWSY, but I attribute that to the high percentage of whole wheat flour. I really saw no evidence of damage from the over-proofing.  The crust was crunchy, and the crumb was well-aerated (for a 75% WW loaf). It was moist and tender.

The aroma was just wonderful - very whole wheaty. The flavor was good whole wheat with no bitterness or grassiness. The sourdough tang was on the high end of moderate, by my standards. A delicious bread. I'm expecting it to make outstanding sandwiches and toast.

The breads from this book continue to amaze me - on the one hand by their accelerated fermentation and on the other by how incredibly delicious they are.  I am seriously considering abandoning my planned attempts to bring their fermentation rate down in favor of just keeping an eye on the dough and enjoying the ride.

David

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Skibum

Yesterday was a big day for this old skibum.  I made a trip to the big city and picked up my new Kitchenaide SS fridge to go with the KA SS stove bought in the spring AND stopped the Bass Pro store and bought a Lodge combo cooker for $50, which is WAY easier to load than my 4" deep enameled CA DO, which was taking a bit of a beating doing bread and is my favourite cooking tool, both stove top and oven.  The Lodge CC rocks!

I took yet another page from dabrownman's book in this bake going with 25% whole wheat and 15% organic rye. For 2/3 of the WW I used 1/3 red wheat berries and 1/3 white berries ground in a small coffee grinder I use mostly for grinding spices.  All of the flour and water was autolysed overnight @ 85% hydration.

This was about a 3 day build due to schedule.  Day one feed the starter, let it rise and fall , then into the fridge overnight.  Mix in the am with 4 S&F's with 10 minutes rest and 3 S&F's with 30.  Bulk on the counter for 1:30 the into the fridge for 24 hours.  Pre-shaped, rest 10 min and shaped.  I proofed in a mixing bowl lined with linen dusted with rice flour for an hour, scored and baked in the new Lodge for 20 minutes @ 500F covered, then 10 uncovered @ 450 convection, turning at the half. Crumb shot:

This made a nice bread with a good open crumb, but I still like the flavour profile of my 15% WW, 10% rye and will back down to those numbers next bake and once again use ground wheat berries and toadies.  i also added 1Tbs oil, 1 Tbs honey and 1 Tbs malt syrup and 11/2 tps salt.

The new love in my life:

Now I just need to change out the flooring and my kitchen reno is complete.  It sure is nice to have quality kitchen appliances!

Happy baking!  Brian

 

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flour fingers

When I saw my teenage son, the one not too fond of reading, reading "the Hunger Games" books, I decided to give it a read as well. I remember the Harry Potter days, reading them to see what my daughter and her friends were all talking about. We ended up reading at least the first book together as a family.  (My daughter and I would read others together with her hiding them while she was in school so I wouldn't read ahead.)

So now there I was reading the Hunger Game series.

Not too bad. Especially since one of the main characters was a baker. Here is what I read that inspired me to try this loaf.

First, for those who missed the books and movie, the main character, Katniss, is thinking back to when she was about 12 years old and was starving, along with her little sister and mother. She had been walking in the rain, looking in trash bins, looking for scraps to take home. She was out behind the bakery, next to the pigs, wishing she would just die.

“There was a clatter in the bakery and I heard the woman screaming again and the sound of a blow, and I vaguely wondered what was going on. Feet sloshed toward me through the mud and I thought, Its her. She’s coming to drive me away with a stick. but it wasn’t her. It was the boy. In his arms, he carried two large loaves of bread that must have fallen into the fire because the crusts were scorched black.

His mother was yelling “Feed it to the pig, you stupid creature! Why not? No one decent will buy burned bread!”

He began to tear off chunks from the burned parts and toss them into the trough, and the front bakery bell rung and the mother disappeared to help a customer.

The boy never even glanced my way, but I was watching him. Because of the bread, because of the red weal that stood out on his cheekbone. What had she hit him with? My parents never his us. I couldn’t even imagine it. The boy took one look back to the bakery as if checking that the coast was clear, then, his attention back on the pig, he threw a loaf of bread in my direction. The second quickly followed, and he sloshed back to the bakery, closing the kitchen door tightly behind him.

I stared at the loaves in disbelief. They were fine, perfect really, except for the burned areas. Did he mean for me to have them? He must have. Because there they were at my feet. Before anyone could witness what had happened I shoved the loaves up under my shirt, wrapped the hunting jacket tightly about me, and walked swiftly away. The heat of the bread burned into my skin, but I clutched it tighter, clinging to life.

By the time I reached home  , the loaves had cooled somewhat, but the insides were still warm. When I dropped them on the table, Prim’s hands reached to tear off a chunk, but I made her sit, forced my mother to join us a  the table, and poured warm tea. I scraped off the black stuff and sliced the bread. We ate an entire loaf, slice by slice. It was good hearty bread, filled with raisins and nuts.”

As you can see from the description, it leaves plenty of room for interpretation. So, back a year or so ago, I made 2 free form loaves of what I called Peeta bread, for that was the name of the bakery boy. I made it hearty, whole grain with nuts and raisins. It turned out great and then I promptly lost my notes on what I did and forgot about it.

This week my older son was giving me the ol' sad eyes for homemade hearty bread. (yes, with the heat in the 90's so I-don't-think-so). But now it is a tad cooler so I popped the ingredients in my bread machine for mixing, then put it in a loaf pan, mainly because I got busy and forgot I was going to free form it. Big deal. It turned out just as yummy as before and with no white flour.

Here is a picture from my first batch, back when. I posted it on my blog, but didn't include the recipe. To be true to form, I should have burnt it.Hunger Games inspired bread

Here is what I used:

1 1/4 cups water

2 Tbsp. olive oil

3 Tbsp. leftover mashed potatoes

1 Tbsp. molasses

2 Tbsp. honey

1/4 cup rye flour

3 cups (more or less) white whole wheat flour

1 tsp. salt

2 1/2 tsp. yeast

when the bread machine beeped at me, I added:

some sunflower seeds, some chopped pecans, cranberries and raisins.

I think the starch in the potatoes helped the yeast do its yeasty thing. It grew beautifully, not too fluffy, not too dense. I started it while I was making dinner and it was out of the oven by bedtime. I toyed with the idea of pre-ferments, bigga and so forth, but my boys really just wanted some bread and would not appreciate the nuances of delayed bread, only the fact that they had to wait another day to eat it.

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Wingnut

The Sainted Wife want pizza so who am I to deny her.

Her Za...

Pesto, Garlic Sausage and Veg

Sourdough Crust

My Za

My tomato gravy, garlic sausage, roasted red onion and bell pepper

Under shot for those who care to see it

nice and crisp bottom with a soft chewy outside crust.

Cheers,

Wingnut

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Szanter5339

                                                       

                                                             

                                                                              

                                               

                                              

Kenyértésztából készítettem a zsemléket, 4 evőkanál vaj hozzáadásával.Finom ropogós de lágy belsővel, nagyon ízletes a szilvalekvárral. A szilvalekvár saját készítés, cukor és tartósító nélkül.  510 ml víz (ez lehet kicsivel kevesebb vagy több, függ a liszt milyenségétől!)7 kávéskanál só (csapósan)1 evőkanál porcukor1000 gr BL55 liszt2 evőkanál olaj, vagy: ( olvasztott vaj, vagy margarin) zsemléhez 4 evőkanál vaj. + a kovász Kovász készítése, sütés előtt 1-2 nappal. Kovász:250 ml víz250 gr BL 55 liszt40 g élesztő1 evőkanál olajHa így készíted, tuti szép és finom kenyered lesz!   Beteszek minden hozzávalót a gépbe. Dagasztási idő legalább 10 perc. Fényes nem ragadós tészta, könnyen formázható, inkább kemény rugalmas tésztának kell lennie A dagasztás után liszt nem érheti. (ez nagyon lényeges) Kiteszem deszkára (nem lisztezett) és átgyúrom párszor, majd szakajtóba teszem és kelesztem 30 percig. Ismét kiborítom a szakajtóból (nem lisztezett), átgyúrom, és visszateszem a szakajtóba. Duplájára kel, ez 40-45 perc, attól függ milyen meleg helyen van. Kiborítom a deszkára és megkerekítem cipónak és teszem az edénybe. Az edénybe alól felül sütőpapír van. A sütőpapír alá vizet spriccelek és  még kelnie kell 30 percig. Mintázom és pengével bevágom. Beborítom és 230 fokos forró sütőbe mehet .Sütöm 40 percig, majd tető nélkül a szép piros szín eléréséig tovább sütöm. Erős arany barnára kell sütni, mert különben nem fog cserepesedni!!!!A sütőből mikor kiveszem lespriccelem vízzel. Nagyon finom ropogós, cserepes de lágy belsejű kenyerünk lesz.
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