I have made plain white, whole wheat, or a blend of both for many years, and recently tried some in a mixer instead of hand kneading. It turned out much like baker's bread (storebought). I think though, it was from overcooking and not the electric mixer. I am trying it again today to see how it goes. If I knead it myself it is only for a short time because of health reasons....my dough, if not made in the mixer, has a lot of water, and bakes soft, delicate and wonderfully home made.
The dough I make is also used to make cinnamon rolls, and fried bread. Bread fried in a pan and split, served with butter and or jam is nice on its own or with a meal.
I would like to express my gratitude for this site and the interesting reading about the various topics. For instance, I am learning new terminology. I have always referred to proofing as rising; my new oven has a proof setting...and I never knew before now what a banneton is.
I have also sucessfully made ciabatta. Occasionally exotic breads (my experiments) have ended up in my garden looking much like bricks.....but that is ok...I will continue trying as it is fun and sometimes satisfying to have a new to me finished product I can be proud of.
Best Regards,
Abunaloaf