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My croissants are collapsing!

May 26, 2017 - 10:12am -- frajasago

Hi All,

I've been perfecting my croissant recipe but started having issues when baking. This recipe is from Bruno Alzone

but I changed it to replace the yeast for a 100% hydration starter. Did shape them last night and let them proof all night in the kitchen, for 10 hours (quite cold, it's winter here and my kitchen is like Winterfell) - around 53ºF.

dabrownman's picture

After quite a few white breads in a row I was worried that Lucy may have gone to the white side and then she came up with this one.  Originally it was supposed to be a 40% rye Jewish Corn Bread but that got lost in the translation of having to replenish our very old NMNF stiff rye starter.


We started the process of replenishing the starter at 100% hydration and, at the end of the 3rd stage, it had tripled so we retarded it for 24 hours.  Then we split it in half.  We then fed half the sprouted rye bran and enough water to make it 100% hydration and let it double again and then retarded that part.

The other half was fed whole rye at 66% hydration and when it had risen 25% we retarded it as our new NMNF starter we will use over the next half year with no maintenance whatsoever.  The HE sprouted flour and some whole rye was used as part of the dough flour for this Friday’s bake.  In the end this bread ended up being 10% whole grain rye and 30% sprouted whole grain rye with the remaining 60% was Albertson’s bread flour.

It looked pretty naked so Lucy added in 10% each toasted walnuts and black mission figs, 2% caraway and 2% total of equal parts of anise, coriander and fennel seeds – or favorite mix of bread spices.  Overall hydration of this bread was 80%.

Since retarding the old NMNF starter for 24 weeks, the new starter build and the levain for 25 hours each for this bread was not enough….. we decided to retard the shaped loaf in the Oriental Pullman for 12 hours too – nothing like 4 retards to make a loaf of rye bread – 3 just won’t do for a purebred German like Lucy – even though Germans probably didn’t even retard their rye breads at all I’m guessing.

This one had a 1 hour autolyse with the PHSS sprinkled on top.  Once the levain finally I the dough, we did 3 sets of slap and folds, 4,10 and 4 followed by 3 sets if stretch and folds from the compass points. all on 30 minute intervals, go get the add in’s incorporated.  Once we shaped it and plopped it into the sprayed Pullman pan, we let it sit for 30 minutes before putting it in the fridge for 12 hours.

There is that salad for Lucy

When we took it out of the fridge the next morning we fired up the oven to 500 F.  When the pan went into the oven between the two tones we turned the oven down to 450 F for 15 minutes of covered steam and then another 15 minutes of covered steam at 425 F.  After 30 minutes of steam we removed the lid and continued baking at 425 F convection for 20 minutes.

We then removed the bread from the pan and finished baking it directly on the rack for 10 more minutes.  When we took it out of the oven at the 50 minute mark it read 207 F on the inside.  It browned up beautifully but we will have to wait n the inside until we let it sit wrapped in plastic wrap overnight to redistribute the moisture before slicing for breakfast.

This one came out just the way we had hoped.  Soft, moist and open on the inside with that bread spices giving off aroma as well as flavor.  The figs and walnuts are wonderful additions to what would be a plain Jewish Deli Rye bread.  The additions make it special and handsome to look at as well. It is one delicious bread.  Now we have to toast it and put some cream cheese on it for breakfast.

Here are the ribs and the strip steak for Lucy's baker


15% prefermented whole grain rye and sprouted rye bran flour levain at 100% hydration. 8% whole rye and 7% sprouted rye bran


2% whole rye

23% high extraction sprouted rye

60% Albertson’s bread flour

80% overall hydration

10% Mission Figs

10% Toasted Walnuts

4% Bread spices – half caraway the other half, amice, coriander and fennel

2% Pink Himalayan sea salt

Vince920's picture

This is what my most recent recipe looks like. Holes are quite irregular... Some parts have large holes, yet some have an almost negligible amount of holes in them.

I'll be revealing the recipe after I try it with 70% hydration and a slightly longer proofing time.

Here's what the crust looked like. It looked almost similar to my first corn flake-topped loaf, just more brown because I removed the cover much earlier than I regularly do. I'm not at all disappointed.

Andrew Skinner's picture
Andrew Skinner

Hi it's Andrew here, I have been using fresh compressed yeast, And my bread is coming of yellow ! can anyone please help me !

isand66's picture

This is a relatively simple bread made with fresh milled Kamut flour, KAF Millet flour and KAF Toasted Almond Flour.  I added some smoked pecan maple syrup for extra sweetness which complimented the nutty flavor of the almond flour.

All in all, this one came out very tasty and made some great grilled bread with olive oil for dinner this week.

The crumb could have been a bit more open but it was nice and moist.

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