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Yippee

Formula - Japanese Style White Sandwich Bread - Water Roux Starter / Sponge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From 'The 65 C Bread Doctor" by Yvonne Chen    
      
      
Water Roux Starter     
      
any amount is finebread flour50g  
as long as the 1:5 ratio is followedwater 250g  
      
 Whisk both until well mixed    
 Heat it up on stove, keep stirring     
 until temperature reaches 65 C or 149 F    
 (Yippee uses the microwave, about 4 minutes, stir halfway.)   
 (Final product should leave a trail when stirred.)   
 Put a plastic wrap directly on top to prevent forming a 'skin'.  
 Must be cooled to at least room temperature before use.  
 Refrigerate up to 3 days.      
 Do not use if turns grey.    
      
      
Makes 2 loaves     
Original recipe uses water roux starter only, sponge not necessary.     
Yippee threw in an additional step of developing the sponge out of the total, see side column for her portions.  
      
     Yippee's Sponge
A.bread flour540g 400
 sugar86g  
 salt8g  
 yeast11g 8
B.whole eggs86g 86
 whipping cream (can substitute with either half n half or milk)59g 59
 milk54g 54
 milk (recipe calls for flavor enhancer but Yippee uses milk instead)9g 9
      
 water roux starter144g 2 TBSP out of the 144g
C.butter49g  
      
Mix:Combine A. and B. until a ball is formed.     
 Add C. and knead until the dough passes the windowpane test.  
 (Yippee says:  use your judgment, each machine is different)  
 (Yippee kneads her dough in her Zojirushi breadmaker for 30 minutes.  
      
1st Fermentation:About 40 minutes at 28 C or 82.4 F, 75% humidity  
      
Scale: into 4 pieces if making twin loaves, each at 265g   
 (Yippee makes 2 log loaves, each at 530g)    
Rest:     
 15 minutes at room temperature    
      
Shape:For twin loaves:    
 Degas    
 Roll into an oval    
 With the long side facing you:    
 Fold 1/3 from top to bottom, press to seal    
 Fold 1/3 from bottom to top, press to seal    
 Turn seam side down    
 Roll and elongate the dough to about 30cm or 12 "   
 Upside down and roll into a cylindrical shape   
 Seam side down, into the loaf pan    
      
 For log loaves:    
 Shape like regular sandwich bread    
      
Final Proof:About 40 minutes at 38 C or 100.4 F, 85% humidity   
 (Yippee lets the dough rise for 20 more minutes to get a taller loaf)  
      
Bake:Whole egg wash, no water added    
 350 F, 35-40 minutes    

 

 

 

Sponge preparation:

 

a.                   Use the ingredients listed on the side column, mixed until all are well incorporated

b.                  Leave at room temperature ~ 76-80F for an hour

c.                   Grease a food grade plastic bag, pour dough in, leave enough space to allow the dough to expand to about 160% of its size, reinforce the bag with double or triple bagging before tightening it, retard overnight

d.                  Subtract the above ingredients from the main formula, whatever remaining will be mixed at the 'Mix' stage with the sponge.  Follow the rest of the formula. 

 

However, if your dough feels cold after mixing due to the refrigerated sponge, instead of following the time suggested in the formula, watch your dough:

 

1st Fermentation:           Completes when the dough has risen to about 180% of its size

 

Final Proof:                   Completes when a dent is formed and very slowly bounces back

                                    when dough is poked with a floured finger

 

 

To make rolls:

Scale: 60g each

Bake: 350F, about 15 minutes

rest of the procedures unchanged

Choice of fillings, if preferred: bacon, roast chicken, cheese, red bean, pork, curry and custard cream.

Pictures of assorted buns I made before:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33569048@N05/sets/72157617619002761/show

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Hi

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April 22, 2009 - 6:02am -- bobku

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sharonk

I created these breads and bread recipes to cope with my own multiple food allergies and sensitivities. After mastering and enjoying old fashioned sourdough rye bread I learned I was gluten intolerant and could no longer eat rye. I learned I was also allergic to eggs and dairy products.

Wanting to continue eating bread, I looked at the ingredients in retail gluten free breads and found there was at least one ingredient I needed to avoid in each one. If I was going to be able to eat bread I needed to be able to control the ingredients.
I began experimenting with the sourdough techniques I had mastered for the rye bread.

Sourdough baking is a time tested bread baking technique that was used exclusively until the discovery of modern commercial yeast. It utilizes the natural yeasts and bacteria present on the grain and in the air to leaven bread. Sourdough bread becomes highly digestible because the flours are "soaked" in the starter and in the long rise period. Some people may remember their grandparents soaking oatmeal the night before cooking it for breakfast. Soaking neutralizes natural enzyme inhibitors in the grain, begins breaking down the tough cellulose fibers, fosters the formation of probiotics and enzymes and releases vitamins. All this makes for a more nutritious finished product that is easy on the digestion with many nutrients available for assimilation. Sourdough breads have a robust taste, long shelf life and freeze well.

For those of us who are gluten intolerant and have other food allergies these sourdough bread recipes can be a welcome addition to our diets.
The recipes in my gluten free recipe package are free of gluten, dairy, eggs, corn, soy, yeast, sugar, baking powder/soda, and xanthan and guar gums.
It can be purchased at: http://glutenfreesourdough.com

Free starter recipes on my personal blog: http://glutenfreesourdough.blogspot.com

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