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Anybody have a Savory Onion Spread Recipe?

January 12, 2010 - 1:54pm -- hutchndi
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Has anybody seen a recipe for something like a savory onion spread? I while back somebody posted a very simple recipe in a local newspaper for savory onion something, I don't think it had any ingredients other than onions, and it slow cooked for a long time until they become a kind of jam or spread. This sounds like something I would love to try on my sourdough, but I can't find the article, and the reipes I find online have a long ingredient list, I just know this is not what I had read about.

Russ from RI

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Fan oven or no fan oven

January 12, 2010 - 11:46am -- Martyn
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When I first started making bread a month ago I almost burnt the crust on my bread, the loaves seemed to cook far quicker than the recipes suggested. I have now realised that we have a very modern fan assisted oven so this would account for the rapid bake times. I have reduced the temparatures to compensate for the fan assistance, but have now discovered that I can turn off the fan (instruction books are wonderful things).

My question is this; is there any benefit to be had for baking bread in a fan assisted against a none fan assisted oven?

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Susan

MORE SESAME SOURDOUGH

130g starter (100% hyd.), 305g water, ~1/4 cup sesame seeds, 9g salt, 1 tsp toasted sesame oil, 400g All Trumps high-gluten flour, 50g coarse whole wheat flour.

The dough was kept close to 76F throughout mixing and fermentation.

Mix starter and water.  Add seeds and oil, mix.  Add flours and salt, mix just until flour is wet, rest 1 hour, fold 3x at 30 min intervals.  Let rise until near doubled (about 2 hours).  Shape, put in triangle brotform, and deposit in fridge for overnight.  Bake at 500->460F (after a half-hour out of fridge) under cover for first 20 minutes.  Let rest in oven for 10 minutes after bake.

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DownStateBaker

Sorry for the delay. I thought I would have a chance to post day two right away. I am now in day three of the creation of the starter. So let's catch up!

Day 2

This is how my starter looked at 30 hours from the initial mix of 300g flour 300g water. I stirred it 5 times over the 30 hours. In the first 12 hours i had left the bowl, covered, on my pellet stove. It got up to 90 F, this was initially thought of as a mistake by me. So I moved the bowl to somewhere at room temp. Then over the next 28 hours it was alive with activity so awesome. So hopefully over the 30 hours you've seen activity similar to what is shown above. If it takes more time than 30 its ok, this is what you want it to look similar too before going on to the next step.

Feeding

You should have 600g of starter mix. Take 300g of this mix, add 150g of flour, and 150g water. I had just poured a glass of a nice weizen-bock and mixed the water with the yeast sediment in the bottle. I figured the more the merrier, yeast wise. Then mixed it up until well combined (No chunks of dry flour). To look like this.

Day 3

Here is how it looked at around 12pm today before I mixed it up again (not adding anything). Updates to come

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Postal Grunt

I've found that the new year means I'm still going up the learning curve on my sourdough loaves. The continued low temperatures here in Kansas combined with above average barometric pressures gave me an opportunity to observe first hand some of the effects of weather on my starter and in the behavior of flours.

My starter exhibited the behavior that I should have expected with cooler room temperatures between 68-70F. Loaves rose more slowly, especially the loaf that had been retarded overnight. After refreshing my starter to a 1:2:2 ratio, activity was diminished, taking about 6 hours to double rather than the expected 3 1/2-4 hours.

I haven't lost my taste for loaves with whole wheat flour. I was surprised when my standby wheatMontana Bronze Chief turned my hydration estimates upside down. I usually aim for around 65-67%  in loaves that have 500g total flour but the loaves turned out to appear much drier than 65% after kneading.

 

The crumb on this first enriched loaf wasn't as open as I'd like but the flavor was more than acceptable

My most recent loaf is a boule of Bauernbrot based on Salome's excellent formula where I used up the last 60g or so of rye from a bag, added more of the Bronze Chief, some AP and finished off with some bread flour. The dough was again on the dry side when kneading. Either my estimate of hydration was low or the rye and WW absorbed more than usual amounts of water. The outside temp was around 1F, barometric pressure was a very high 30.56. I did an overnight retarding after shaping and the loaf needed almost 4 hours to warm up for baking.

The crumb doesn't show up well in this picture either. The flavor is fine enough that my wife wants to take what's left up to Omaha for her parents to sample. Now I have a reason to look back through my recipes for a formula for a bread I haven't tried before.

I've got a plan for the next four weeks. First off, I'm going to build up my starters in two steps rather than one or just taking out 100g from the container I keep refrigerated and letting it warm up. Instead of 100g, I can use 150g because I have the time to experiment with the process. Hydration level is something to work on because this is the first winter I've used a starter. Dough hydration will be moving up to the high 60s or low 70s. I know I'll have to learn new techniques because plain kneading won't be enough to get the results I'm aiming for. It's back to the bench for me, there's work to be done in the flour patch.

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Seeking help with creating customized sandwich bread loaf...

January 12, 2010 - 10:46am -- cloudcover
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hello -

 

i'm interested in making my own sandwich bread recipe but since i'm relatively new to baking, i was hoping to get some help to avoid lots of trials and errors.  my goal is to make a sandwich bread that is about 1/3 white whole wheat flour, 1/3 bread flour, and 1/3 oat flour.  i have reinhart's "whole grain" book and thought i'd maybe try starting with the "transitional wheat" bread recipe on p.99.  

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