The Fresh Loaf

A Community of Amateur Bakers and Artisan Bread Enthusiasts.
GSnyde's picture
GSnyde

I seem to be developing a pattern for my weekend bakes: one lean bread and one hearty rich something-or-other. Today it was Polish Country Bread with Rye Soaker and Chicken Pot Pie. Both were excellent (yes, I do say so myself) and both owe much to my TFL mentors.

The big excitement this weekend was stopping at Keith Giusto’s Bakery Supply in Petaluma and scoring some wicked flour (http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/20519/alert-north-bay-flour-seekers#comment-144005).

IMG_1788

Then, of course, I had to try it.

Polish Country Bread with Rye Soaker

IMG_1790

I have baked several breads with a portion of whole Rye flour. In fact most of my favorite sourdoughs have some rye, including Brother David’s much heralded San Joaquin Sourdough and my San Francisco Country Sourdough. I do plan to try a “real” Rye bread at some point soon. Meanwhile, I was intrigued by Wally’s blog post about Polish Country Bread with a Rye soaker (http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/18965/variations-polish-country-bread). I mostly followed Larry’s formula, but I increased the Rye to 20% by increasing the soaker to 110 grams of Rye flour and 220 grams of water; accordingly, I reduced the water in the final mix. Also, in place of the Sir Galahad, I had to use the Central Milling Co.’s Artisan Bakers’ Craft flour (with a touch of malted Barley flour in it) that I got yesterday at Keith Giusto’s Bakery Supply. This bread gave me a chance to experience some of the characteristics of Rye flour while baking something in my comfort zone.

The night-before prep of soaker and two levains went fine, but I found the dough very hard to mix by hand this morning. It started out lumpish and stiff. I added a small amount of additional water. Then after 10 minutes of bare hands mixing it became as sticky as anything I’ve worked. Finally, with several minutes of kneading on a floured board, it started to get silky and workable, though still pretty dense. It didn’t really windowpane, but I decided it was ready because I had had enough mixing and needed my cappuccino. The dough became much more cooperative as it got stretched and folded during the bulk ferment. It was still not easily malleable, but it felt like bread dough. This experience helped persuade me that I might need to get a mixer for firm doughs and big batches. I look forward to seeing David’s BUP in action next weekend.

The two loaves, one boule and one batard, rose nicely in their bannetons, and I could tell when I slashed them that they were just ready for some baking. Indeed, they sproinged like crazy in an oven steamed with a combo of Sylvia’s Magic Towels and a cast iron skillet with lava rocks. The crust was crispy and fairly thick, with strong caramelization (not as dark as the photos indicate). And I don’t believe I’ve had such big grignes before. And since I pre-heated the stone for over an hour on convection setting, the bottoms were nice and brown.

IMG_1792

IMG_1795

The crumb was not as moist as the Pain de Campagne I’ve baked recently, but it was a nice combination of airy and chewy.

IMG_1799

IMG_1801_2

Chicken Pot Pie

When I was a boy in the Old Country, we had a unique dining establishment called The Chicken Pie Shop. Its décor featured 1950s old growth naugahyde booths (in a variety of green tones) with pastel sheet metal chicken sculptures on the walls. It served chicken pies and little else. I describe it in the past tense (though the place is still there) because the memories are more real than the present. For much of my short adult life, I have been trying to replicate those pies—flaky crust with big chunks of chicken and a simple thick Chickeny gravy.

A couple years ago, I found a recipe that is pretty dang close (http://southernfood.about.com/od/chickenpies/r/bl30425c.htm). I have made it several times, using Pillsbury pie crust dough. Having drooled over trailrunner’s Apple Crostada recipe (http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/20622/apple-crostada), I decided I needed to bite the bullet and make pie crust for the first time (I know, I have big gaps in my culinary experience…but at least I’m trying to fill them). My wife knows a lot more about pie making than I do, having lived for part of her youth with her expert-baker granny. So she (wife, not her granny) helped me with the crust. It seemed to be going well, though I think we added too much buttermilk, and overhandled it a bit. It was good tasting but not flaky. Not bad for a first try. It made for a delicious dinner, and a valuable pie crust lesson.

The chicken pie has about one-third of a pound of butter in it, between the crust and the gravy. But, as my spouse says, it has some vegetables, so it's good for us.

IMG_1803

Another bunch of lessons learned, and the homework was good enough to eat.

Glenn

Eidetix's picture

My oven and my heart are broken

November 21, 2010 - 8:15am -- Eidetix

Thanksgiving is upon us. I came into this week eager to put my newfound enthusiasm for bread-baking to work on behalf of my loved ones, eager to apply what I have learned here and elsewhere to the art and craft of making home-made bread for the holiday feast.

Eager, schmeager, as it turns out: My oven died last Wednesday and my hopes died with it. These days I come to this site out of habit and leave feeling like a kid with the flu who can't come out and play with his buddies.

freerk's picture

should I tightly clingwrap my croissant dough?

November 21, 2010 - 6:00am -- freerk
Forums: 

Question: In the Julia Child-video for making croissants, Esther (the french lady who does the baking in the video) wraps her dough very tightly in cling film before she puts the fridge to rise.

 

I'm doing the same thing when making croissants, but I actually have no clue what this does to the process. It feels counter intuitive somehow: why am I not giving this dough all the room it wants and needs to grow?

 

Bee18's picture

I had to make compromise

November 20, 2010 - 10:49pm -- Bee18

 

I had to make compromises. The electrical oven did not work properly even after we had it repaired. The only solution I had was to use the bread machine. But I still wanted to bake only sourdough rye bread with a high % of rye. It worked OK and since this kind of Rye/Pumpernickel need to be very wet the machine had no problem to mix it.

Then I change towards the light rye bread or pain de campagne.

Slowly I adapted the quantity of water to get the right mix.

 

coffeetester's picture

My 71% 1,2,3 loaf is sticking to my proofing baskets

November 20, 2010 - 5:05pm -- coffeetester

The first time I used the bigger baskets I did not have to flour it and I had no issue. Today I tried to do a non-fridged 1,2,3 loaf and I did flour the basket but it stuck pretty well. I also had trouble with my wicker basket but I did not flour it all the way up. Can someone suggest if I should be using a different flour (AP) or technique. I use a shaker to spread the flour out. Should I be putting more on it.

coffeetester's picture

Sourdough Starter and Artisan Bread in 5 minutes a day

November 20, 2010 - 4:04pm -- coffeetester

Has any one tried to use Sourdough starter to make the Artisan Bread in 5 minutes a day. My wife is doing Team in Training and I want to be able to bake 10 to 20 loafs a weekend to sell. I was trying to stream line some of the process and having dough already to be formed and baked in less then an hour each night as apposed to the current Norwich is taking me 5 hours to prep and 1 hour to cook.

 

Pages

Subscribe to The Fresh Loaf RSS