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Starter starts nice, goes iffy, then bitter. Help?

June 14, 2011 - 3:32pm -- Bread Breaddington

Hello again...

I've had the same thing happen twice now. I start the culture with half AP half WW/rye, gets going, increase % of white flour and feed more each feeding (every 12 hours), after a week or so strong rise, nicely sour and lemony, makes good bread. After another week, loses a lot of the sourness, smells neutral but not offensive, few days later bitter, makes bitter unedible bread, though it still raises the bread well. 

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txfarmer

Recently, I have posted about my SD version of the classic Hokkaido Milk Loaf (see here: http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/23662/sourdough-hokkaido-milk-loaf-classic-shreddable-soft-bread), this time I adapted it to use all ww flour. Yes, the original Hokkaido Milk Loaf is quite enriched, and this ww version is not any "leaner", however, I do think ww flour adds more dimension to the flavor, and all the enriching ingredients bring incredible softness to this 100% ww loaf. To me, "healthy eating" is not about restricting, on the contrary, it's about bringing in different kinds of natural food groups into my diet and thriving for a balance.

 

SD 100%ww Hokkaido Milk Loaf

Note: 19% of the flour is in levain

Note: total flour is 420g, fit my Chinese small-ish pullman pan. For 8X4 US loaf tin, I suggest to use about 450g of total flour.

 

- levain

starter (100%), 22g

milk, 37g

ww flour (I used KAF ww), 69g

1. Mix and let fermentation at room temp (73F) for 12 hours.

- final dough

ww flour, 340g

sugar, 55g

butter, 17g, softened

milk powder, 25g

egg whites, 63g

salt, 6g

milk, 150g

heavy cream, 118g

 

1. Mix together everything but butter, autolyse for 40-60min. Add butter, Knead until the dough is very developed. This intensive kneading is the key to a soft crumb, and proper volume. The windowpane will be thin and speckled with grains, but NOT as strong as one would get form a white flour dough. For more info on intensive kneading, see here.

2. rise at room temp for 2 hours, punch down, put in fridge overnight.

3. Take out dough, punch down, divide and rest for one hour.

4. Shape into sandwich loaves, the goal here is to get rid of all air bubles in the dough, and shape them very tightly and uniformly, this way the crumb of final breads would be even and velvety, with no unsightly holes. For different ways to shape (rolling once or twice, i.e. 3 piecing etc) see here.

5. Proof until the dough reaches one inch higher than the tin (for 8X4 inch tin), or 80% full (for pullman pan). About 5 hours at 74F.

6. Bake at 375F for 40-45min. Brush with butter when it's warm.

 

A crumb and flavor even whole grain haters would love.

 

Tear/shread away...

 

Sending this to Yeastspotting.

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Bulgur wheat bread

June 14, 2011 - 9:25am -- krusty
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Lately I've been baking delcious bread by the almost no-knead method, using bulgur wheat instead of whole-wheat flour.  Bulgur adds nutrients and fibre, and the bread stays fresh longer.  I've used coarse and medium bulgur wheat - the fine grind doesn't add much character - and firik (a.k.a. frekeh, freekeh and farik), which is green wheat, parched or roasted, then dried.  Firik adds a light smoky taste, and a hint of sourness.   I buy it at a Turkish grocery store, but any middle-eastern grocery store should have it.

The basic recipe is:

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Ryan Sandler

A collection of my recent bakes:

Poolish Baguettes

Cut for BLT's

Ciabatta (Craig Ponsford formula)

Somewhat disappointing crumb.  Another batch made the following week looked similar

Miche, shaped as a large batard.

With baby for (largely uninformative) scale

Crumb

More Ponsford Ciabatta, made without the final letter fold "shaping"

Crumb, still disappointing

Happy baking, everyone,

-Ryan 

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High hydration dough!

June 13, 2011 - 9:47pm -- Jmarten
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Can anyone please advise me on how to handle a high hydration dough without getting into a scary mess. I just can't get to grips with it, it goes everywhere and even begins picking up objects it comes in contact with. Please, please help I desperately want to attempt these gorgeous looking loaves that use this wet dough. I would be forever in your Dept!

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