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King George V of England, Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and Wilhelm II of Germany were cousins. Their family squabbles created WW1 a war that could not be settled until the end of WW2.

  

Prince George was named after King George VI; the ‘Stuttering King’.  George VI was king during WW2 and was the father of Queen Elizabeth who took the throne in 1952, some 61 years ago.  She is the great, grand mother of the newly arrived Price George.

 

With all of this history, the design of the Prince George Chacon was not easy.  The rye flour and rye sprouts came from his German connections mainly but also from his Russian ones.  Even the Windsor name was adopted by King George the 5th in 1917 from the real German royalty of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

 

German sounding royalty in England during WW1 was not a good thing in their royal eyes.  The English Samuel Smith’s Imperial Stout used for the liquid in the dough was first presented to the Royal Imperial Court of Russia where it was a favorite.  It was also very tasty and not poisonous.   I wanted to be the official taste taster like The Prince would have.  Just trying to keep the bake in line with the royal theme.

 

I forgot to put the aromatic seeds I had ready to go so I chalk that up to Queen Elizabeth’s old age so, no seeds is a tribute to her adn my wprthless apprentice who is supposed to reminds her master of these forgottenn things.  It’s not much of a tribute but better than some funnier ones that come to mind and associated with her ancient age on the throne.

 

The chacon is a favorite shaping technique we use for special occasions and celebrations.  The corn meal and wheat are from America the home of the baker, the new home of my German apprentice and the USA was once an unruly British colony.

 

The corn meal also represents the common heritage of the Prince’s mother and our wish that the Prince show a little true grit as he grows older.   The white wheat flour represents his royal father.   At one time, white flour was used in bread that was only bound for royals.   By all accounts, Will is the real deal.  The sprouts are, of course, for the Young Royal Sprout himself.

 

 This recipe was loosely adopted from a Tzitzel recipe that Varda was working on.  For all we know, if the Windsor Royal Family had kept their German names and married  some Jewish Royalty like I did somewhere along the way, this young one might well have been name Prince Tzitzel .  His nickname could have been Tizzy!

 

Breakfast on bake day.

If he had a sister, she could have been named Elizabeth for her grandmother; the Queen, and Lizzy for short.  Oh…… what could have been!  Sadly, we won’t be seeing Tizzy and Lizzy in the royal family tree any time soon.

 

A nice salad for dinner.

We started the rye sprouts 2 days before they were needed.  The rye sour levain was a 3 stage process of 3 hours each for the first 2 stages.   When the levain had risen 25% after the 3rd feeding we refrigerated it for 48 hours.  We pulled it out of the fridge to warm up and to finish doubling.

Bake day lunch

The flours were all home milled in the Krup’s coffee mill - the perfect size for the little guy and The Prince deserves the best flour we can manage from a small coffee mill.  We used a 75% extraction again for the rye and the whole wheat but cut down the hydration from 91% last time to 85% this time.  It was a much stiffer dough but Tzitizel supposedly is a less hydrated kind of rye than the normal.

 

Saturdays breakfast - the fuel to slice the Prince's Chacon

When we pulled the levain out of the fridge we also started the autolyse by mixing the stout into the flours which included everything except the levain, salt and sprouts.  We sprinkled the salt over the autolyse ball so that we wouldn’t forget it but it wouldn’t interfere with the autolyse very much.

 

After 3 hours later we mixed the autolyse with the levain and did 10 minutes of slap and folds to get the gluten developed.  We then let the dough rest for 15 minutes before doing (3) sets of S&F’s on 20minute intervals where we incorporated the sprouts on the first one.  One set consisted of 4 stretches from the cardinal direction points and 4 folds - that’s it.

 

After a 30 minute rest on the counter the chacon was shaped in the bottom of the basket after dusting it with corn meal ala Tzitzel.  The design used was one meant to resemble Franko’s flower that he posted earlier this week.  We started with a ball in the middle and then did 4 tapered petals radiating out from it and added 4 smaller balls to fill in between the petals at the base.

 

The reminder of the dough was air shaped into a huge bialy and laid on top of the design on the bottom of the basket.  Can’t wait to see what this design will look like after baking.  After 30 minutes on the counter in a used plastic bag, into the fridge it went for a 16 hour retard.

 

If it rises to 85% overnight in the cold we will bake it cold right out of the fridge.  If not, we will let it warm up and finish proofing on the counter before loading it into the mini oven, a perfect oven for the little tot.  We used 2 of Sylvia’s steaming cups as usual for steam and we preheated to 500 F

 

In this case the bread needed a little more time to proof on the counter before hitting the oven with a splash of water going onto the bottom of the oven for a burst of additional steam.  After 2 minutes we turned the temperature down to 450 F and continued the steam for a total of 15 minutes.

 

The steam was then removed and the temperature was turned down to 425 F, convection this time.  We rotated the bread 180 degrees every 5 minutes until the bread reached 205 f on the inside when it was removed to a cooling rack.

The chacon cracked and bloomed unevenly but nicely and almost where we expected.  The bread browned well and we baked it boldly. The corn meal made for a different crust effect too.  Have to wait for the crumb shots but with the rise and lower hydration, we would expect the crumb to be a little less open than our normal for a rye bread like this one using fresh ground flours.

How did that Chinese 5 spice pork get in there?

The crumb came out like we expected and not quite as open a we wanted but it was soft and moist.  It is the best deli rye style of bread we have managed to date.  Very tasty indeed.  Next time we will up the hydration back to the 90% level to open the crumb some more,. When we take away the beer, sprouts and cornmeal and add in so caraway we think it will be very close to the Tzitzel we remember, only better. because of the home ground 75% extraction flour that just can't be bought anywhere.  This is the way bread is supposed to taste - killer with smoked meats as we will soon find out.

Time to relax with a prickly pear margarita

 

Formula

 

Build 1

Build 2

 Build 3

Total

%

Multigrain SD Starter

10

0

0

10

2.03%

75% Extraction Rye

15

25

35

75

15.24%

Water

15

25

35

75

15.24%

Total

40

50

70

160

32.52%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rye Sour Levain

 

%

 

 

 

Flour

80

16.26%

 

 

 

Water

80

16.26%

 

 

 

Hydration

100.00%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Levain % of Total

15.00%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dough Flour

 

%

 

 

 

75% Extraction Rye

118

23.98%

 

 

 

Corn Meal

20

4.07%

 

 

 

75% Extraction Wheat

274

55.69%

 

 

 

Dough Flour

412

83.74%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Salt

10

2.03%

 

 

 

Imperial Stout

360

73.17%

 

 

 

Dough Hydration

87.38%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total Flour

492

100.00%

 

 

 

Total Stout 360, Water 80

440

89.43%

 

 

 

T. Dough Hydration

89.43%

 

 

 

 

% Whole Grain Flour

20.33%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hydration w/ Adds

85.11%

 

 

 

 

Total Weight

1,067

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add - Ins

 

%

 

 

 

Red Malt

5

1.02%

 

 

 

White Malt

5

1.02%

 

 

 

VW Gluten

15

3.05%

 

 

 

Total

25

5.08%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sprouts

 

%

 

 

 

Whole Rye Berries

100

20.33%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The spout weight is the dry weight before sprouting.

 

 

 

 

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Forkish Focaccia

August 2, 2013 - 12:40pm -- Sjadad

Ken Forkish's book seems to have caught the attention of many TFLers recently, myself included.  I haven't yet had the time to bake any of his levain formulas, but I did manage to make his Focaccia Genovese using his 80% biga white bread.  I was pleased with the result, although the 1/2 cup of olive oil he calls for is too much - it was pooled on top of the finished focaccia and in the pan when the loaf was removed.  Next time I'll go with about 1/4 cup.  I suspected 1/2 cup would be too much but I try to follow recipe amounts as written the first time I bake a particular recipe.

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Interrupted Bulk Ferment! Can I Do This?

August 2, 2013 - 12:25pm -- Song Of The Baker
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Hey all.

I miscalculated how much time I had to make my bread dough today.  We are catching a movie and need to leave right in the middle of the bulk ferment time.  I am doing a Whole Wheat Tartine type loaf.

Question:  It is now in it's autolyse stage.  Can I place the autolysed dough in fridge for the next 5 hours until I get back and then simply carry on where I left off - adding salt and bulk ferment AFTER 5 hours in fridge.

OR, can I add the salt and mix and THEN put in fridge for 5 hours, then carry on with bulk ferment when I get back?

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British Summertime Themed Dinner Party

August 2, 2013 - 9:04am -- Laura T.
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I'm throwing a dinner party on Monday for us and a couple of good friends. It'll be a semi formal occasion and I usually cook about 10 courses of stupidly over-complicated and gourmet veggie food. I also tend to leave it until the last minute to plan my menu. I must enjoy pressure I guess haha. I was just trying to find some inspiration and ideas that went along with the theme and I know a lot of you baking-types are also into cooking. Any ideas/inspiration would be much appreciated.

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75% Whole Wheat Bread by Ken Forkish

August 2, 2013 - 8:14am -- Abelbreadgallery
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The Saturday 75% Whole Wheat Bread by Ken Forkish

- 375 gr whole wheat flour

-125 gr bread flour

- 400 ml lukewarm water

- 11 gr salt

- 1,5 gr instant yeast or 4,5 gr fresh yeast

Bulk fermentation, 4-5 hours.

Proof time: 1 - 1 1/4 hours.

Bake into a dutch oven. 25 minutes with lid on, 20 minutes lid off. 245 C (475F)

More info: http://breadgallery.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/pan-75-integral-y-tal-75-whole-wheat-bread/

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Hello

August 2, 2013 - 5:29am -- Twoflour

Hi folks

 

I've just found this site and am looking forward to learning as much as I can about bread making. My current fascination is sourdough production using Mick Hartley's recipes from his 'Sourdough Made Simple' book as the starting point. I tend not to follow recipes slavishly and as the only oven I own capable of baking bread is a halogen oven can't follow the vast majority of recipes without modifying them.

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Sourdough brick wall - trying to find a way forward

August 2, 2013 - 3:42am -- carthurjohn

Hi,

Looking for some inspiration to get past a brick wall with sourdough baking.

I've been baking sourdough now for 10+ years, read lots of books and done courses. After a lot of experimentation I have been producing some relatively successful loaves, but have got stuck into a rut. I tend to like bread with some guts and body to it, preferably with seeds added. But there are times when I hanker for something lighter and it's here that I am continually hitting a wall. I can't seem to make a decent white-ish loaf that has an interesting flavour and lighter crumb

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